looks great! Thanks Joe!  In my opinion, it doesn't appear to change
any *intended
*scope of nifi. I changed the Draft Graduation Resolution on the confluence
page to reflect these changes.

On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Joe Witt <[email protected]> wrote:

> Changed to
>
>
>     WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>     interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>     Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>     Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>     open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
>     the public, related to an automated and durable data broker
>     between systems providing interactive command and control
>     and detailed chain of custody for data.
>
>     NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>     Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache NiFi Project",
>     be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>     Foundation; and be it further
>
>     RESOLVED, that the Apache NiFi Project be and hereby is
>     responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>     related to an automated and durable data broker
>     between systems providing interactive command and control
>     and detailed chain of custody for data; and be it further
>
>     ...
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Joe Witt <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Agreed.  Will adjust and resend.
> >
> > On Jun 14, 2015 11:10 AM, "Sean Busbey" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> "Realtime" is an overloaded term that had a very specific meaning that
> >> isn't applicable to us.
> >>
> >> I'd suggest "interactive command and control"
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sean
> >> On Jun 14, 2015 9:47 AM, "Joe Witt" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hello
> >> >
> >> > See below proposed adjustment to the language of our graduation
> >> > resolution.
> >> >
> >> > Those interested in seeing the goings on of the ipmc can do so at
> >> > general@iao.. mailing list.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> > Joe
> >> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> > From: "Joe Witt" <[email protected]>
> >> > Date: Jun 14, 2015 9:55 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator
> >> > To: <[email protected]>
> >> > Cc:
> >> >
> >> > Niclas,
> >> >
> >> > I agree that the scope could be improved.  It is a tough balancing act
> >> > of course.  How would about this modification:
> >> >
> >> >     WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> >> >     interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> >> >     Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> >> >     Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> >> >     open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
> >> >     the public, related to an automated and durable data broker
> >> >     between systems providing realtime command and control
> >> >     and detailed chain of custody for data.
> >> >
> >> >     NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> >> >     Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache NiFi Project",
> >> >     be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> >> >     Foundation; and be it further
> >> >
> >> >     RESOLVED, that the Apache NiFi Project be and hereby is
> >> >     responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> >> >     related to an automated and durable data broker
> >> >     between systems providing realtime command and control
> >> >     and detailed chain of custody for data; and be it further
> >> >
> >> >     ...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> > Joe
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Niclas Hedhman <[email protected]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > From the peanut gallery;
> >> > > Doesn't
> >> > >     "related to the automated and managed flow of information
> between
> >> > > systems"
> >> > > apply to at least half of all software out there?
> >> > >
> >> > > In other words, the scope is very wide, and could include anything
> >> > > from
> >> > > SNMP to Apache Mesos and much much more. I think the Board will be
> >> > happier
> >> > > with a somewhat more narrow definition.
> >> > >
> >> > > Cheers
> >> > > Niclas
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 1:04 AM, jan i <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> thanks for the responses I will cast a +1 at vote time.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> sorry for asking the questions, but I was insecure.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> rgds
> >> > >> jan i
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Friday, June 12, 2015, Benson Margulies <[email protected]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > Sean sure makes more sense than me.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Joe Witt <[email protected]
> >> > >> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >> > >> > > Sean is one of those folks i referred to.  Id be an easy +1
> >> > >> > > On Jun 12, 2015 9:24 AM, "Andrew Purtell" <[email protected]
> >> > >> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > >> As Sean says he's been engaged with the project while acting
> as
> >> > >> mentor,
> >> > >> > >> IMHO beyond mentor-ly duties. If the NiFi folks will have him
> on
> >> > the
> >> > >> > >> initial PMC and he's willing to join it, this should resolve
> the
> >> > >> stated
> >> > >> > >> concerns.
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> On Friday, June 12, 2015, Sean Busbey <[email protected]
> >> > >> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <
> >> > >> > >> > [email protected] <javascript:;> <javascript:;>
> >> > >> > >> > > wrote:
> >> > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > >> > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Sean Busbey <
> >> > [email protected]
> >> > >> > <javascript:;>
> >> > >> > >> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >> > >> > >> > > > ...I have no reason to believe either my engagement or
> the
> >> > >> PPMC's
> >> > >> > >> > > willingness
> >> > >> > >> > > > to reach out to or listen to what I have to say will
> >> > >> > >> > > > change
> >> > upon
> >> > >> > >> > > > graduation, so I don't think they need a checkbox ASF
> >> > >> > >> > > > member
> >> > on
> >> > >> > the
> >> > >> > >> > > initial
> >> > >> > >> > > > PMC and I'd prefer they not add one...
> >> > >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > >> > > It's not about ticking a checkbox - it's about an ASF
> member
> >> > >> > agreeing
> >> > >> > >> > > to stay with the project to help here and there with
> things
> >> > where
> >> > >> > >> > > members can help.
> >> > >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > >> > Understood. I can't speak for any other ASF member, but I'm
> >> > already
> >> > >> > >> there,
> >> > >> > >> > engaged, and planning to stay. I don't need a binding PMC
> vote
> >> > >> > >> > to
> >> > do
> >> > >> > >> that.
> >> > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > >> > --
> >> > >> > >> > Sean
> >> > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> --
> >> > >> > >> Best regards,
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >>    - Andy
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. -
> >> > >> > >> Piet
> >> > >> Hein
> >> > >> > >> (via Tom White)
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
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> >> > >>
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings.
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
> >> > > http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java
> >> >
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