do you mean
javax.faces.VALIDATE_EMPTY_FIELDS
?

@ri-javadoc
the discussion was just about the code-base (don't use mojarra source-code
or javadoc in our code-base).
imo posting it here is ok

regards,
gerhard

2009/7/9 Jan-Kees van Andel <[email protected]>

> Hmm, I'm getting closer. I misunderstood the indenting of the bullets
> in the JavaDocs. The first bullet explains it.
>
> But the second bullet still looks silly (the part where
> VALIDATE_EMPTY_FIELDS_PARAM_NAME is explained).
>
> It says something about the system being directed to validate empty
> fields, and then it explains what to do with
> VALIDATE_EMPTY_FIELDS_PARAM_NAME. These two sentences seem to be
> telling the same thing. I suppose the second sentence is an in-depth
> explanation of the first?
>
> Regards,
> Jan-Kees
>
> Ps. Is it allowed to quote JavaDocs on the mailinglist? That would
> make explaining problems easier, but I can remember a discussion about
> copying JavaDocs to source code... :-)
>
>
>
> 2009/7/9 Gerhard Petracek <[email protected]>:
> > hi jan-kees,
> >
> > jsf-validators (if present) are invoked in any case.
> > that means:
> >  - bv is >not< available -> everything works as usual
> >  - bv is available -> a default validator gets added (see the new
> > default-validator mechanism) which delegates to bv.
> >
> > regards,
> > gerhard
> >
> > http://www.irian.at
> >
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> > 2009/7/9 Jan-Kees van Andel <[email protected]>
> >>
> >> Hey,
> >>
> >> I'm currently implementing the JSF 2.0 changes in
> >> UIInput.validateValue() for MyFaces, but the descriptions in the spec
> >> seem odd.
> >>
> >> When I'm reading the PDF, it says that when Bean Validation is
> >> enabled, during the RENDER RESPONSE phase, every UIInput gets a
> >> javax.faces.Bean Validator attached to it.
> >> Then, on the other hand, when I read the JavaDocs for
> >> UIInput.validateValue(), I see the validation process with regards to
> >> Bean Validation.
> >>
> >> The second step (described by the JavaDocs for validateValue) don't
> >> make much sense to me. The way I understand it, there are two issues
> >> with the described approach:
> >>
> >> 1 Duplication, since Bean Validators are only attached components when
> >> Bean Validation is present. The validateValue method can piggyback on
> >> this fact and just follow the old mechanism.
> >>
> >> 2 Backwards compatibility when Bean Validation is not present in the
> >> container. In the JavaDocs for validateValue, I don't see that
> >> "normal" Validators are called when Bean Validation is not present in
> >> the container or when it it explicitly turned off.
> >>
> >> Is this an error in the spec or am I reading it the wrong way? What's
> >> your opinion?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Jan-Kees
> >
> >
>

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