Hi guys,

Dividing this thread is the best thing.
But I think we either reached a conclusion or we should start a vote about
final/private methods
*
We can change current final/private renderer methods to not final /
protected ones,
only when needed, on specific use cases !!!*

If somebody still disagrees with the previous conclusion, the we should
start a vote.
If not, we should take this as a fact from now on.

After we reach a conclusion on the other thread (sub-renderers),
we should have a wiki page or a documentation page on extending Trinidad
renderers.

Thanks for the extensive feedback (positive and negative)!

Best regards,
-- 
Cristi Toth

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On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Scott O'Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks.  I think that would be best. :)
>
>
> Andrew Robinson wrote:
>
> > I'll start a new thread though to clean up the email mess
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Andrew Robinson
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > There is already code in:
> > >
> > >
> > > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/myfaces/trinidad/branches/ar_subRendererPerfTesting
> > >
> > >  As for JIRA, I don't feel that that is a place for discussions. If a
> > >  decision is made, then I will create an issue.
> > >
> > >  -Andrew
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Scott O'Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > >  > Perhaps you should file a JIRA ticket and give us a prototype so
> > > that we can
> > >  > discuss a more concrete example.
> > >  >
> > >  >  Scott
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >  Andrew Robinson wrote:
> > >  >
> > >  > > I agree partially with ending this thread, but not 100%. The
> > > thread
> > >  > > still lives on as a discussion to see if having sub-renderers
> > >  > > instantiated via the renderkit using renderer types is a desired
> > >  > > improvement to the core renderers. If it is, there is an open
> > >  > > discussion that Simon has addressed on how to customize the value
> > > of
> > >  > > properties that a renderer uses from the FacesBean without using
> > >  > > inheritance.
> > >  > >
> > >  > > Tthat part of the thread has not reached a resolution, and
> > > although it
> > >  > > may be viewed as a sub-thread, it still warrants further
> > > discussion
> > >  > > and other view points.
> > >  > >
> > >  > > -Andrew
> > >  > >
> > >  > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >  > wrote:
> > >  > >
> > >  > >
> > >  > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Andy Schwartz
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > > > Ravi, All -
> > >  > > > >
> > >  > > > >
> > >  > > >  >
> > >  > > >  >
> > >  > > >  >  On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Ravindra Adireddy
> > >  > > >  >  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >  > > >  >  > Hi all,
> > >  > > >  >  >
> > >  > > >  >  > Extending complex trinidad components like table,
> > > treeTable is
> > >  > complex job
> > >  > > >  >  > due to final, private and default access modifier methods
> > > in
> > >  > components
> > >  > > >  >  > renderer and components class.
> > >  > > >  >  >
> > >  > > >  >
> > >  > > >  >
> > >  > > >  >  I am thinking that it is perhaps time to put this thread to
> > > rest.
> > >  > > >  >  (It's been fun, but, hey, all good things come to an end,
> > > right?)
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > >  seriously, I agree on that
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > >  -M
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > >  >
> > >  > > >  >  Perhaps we should follow Stephen's lead and start opening
> > > up new
> > >  > > >  >  threads to discuss particular cases where improved
> > > extensibility is
> > >  > > >  >  required.
> > >  > > >  >
> > >  > > >  >  Ravi - would you mind starting a new thread to address the
> > > table
> > >  > > >  >  extensibility question?
> > >  > > >  >
> > >  > > >  >  Andy
> > >  > > >  >
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > > --
> > >  > > >  Matthias Wessendorf
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > >  further stuff:
> > >  > > >  blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> > >  > > >  sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> > >  > > >  mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > >
> > >  > >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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