Maybe someone who is subscribed to legal-discuss (I'm not) can post
the issue over there and see if there's any consensus, then report the
results back here?


On 4/3/07, Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 4/2/07, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First - it's just a convenience, so you could remove it if you wanted,
> with the possible disadvantages that Mike mentioned.
>
> Second - the files were originally included, I removed them after
> licensing issues were mentioned - then there was a lengthy discussion
> (which I don't remember anymore), after which I committed them again
> as they seemed to be save.
>
> Typing them in by hand might be a save way to get around all eventual 
problems.

The same issue came up with the Shale 1.0.4 release - Craig was
looking at it, but I'm not sure he ever came back on it - relevant
posts are here:

http://tinyurl.com/2vknhn
http://tinyurl.com/2lq3gg

Seems like it would be good to resolve once and for all since its
affecting several areas of Apache.

Niall

> regards,
>
> Martin
>
> On 4/2/07, Mike Kienenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have tools that will create a DTD for a specific xml file.
> > Perhaps someone can provide a comprehensive faces-config file matching
> > the DTD and I can just parse the DTD from that file?
> >
> > Seems like that'd be easier (or at least give a better starting point)
> > than going from scratch.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/2/07, Paul McMahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Apr 2, 2007, at 11:38 AM, David Jencks wrote:
> > >
> > > > Over in geronimo we noticed this text and have responded by:
> > > >
> > > > 1. for the schemas that we generate code from (using xmlbeans or
> > > > jaxb) we checked the schemas into a non-publically-accessible
> > > > repository (with our tck stuff) and generate the code there, and
> > > > publish source and binary jars, both without the schemas themselves.
> > > >
> > > > 2. We also have an ongoing effort to produce unencumbered schemas.
> > > > Apparently (IANAL) the actual schema/dtd is not copyrightable as it
> > > > is an interface specification, the part that is copyrightable is
> > > > the comments, annotations, etc.  So, we have been typing up the
> > > > schemas ourselves without any of the descriptive material.
> > >
> > > See this JIRA for more details on the effort in Geronimo that David
> > > mentioned.
> > >      https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2630
> > >
> > > Typing the schemas in by hand is tedious but maybe not so bad if we
> > > divide and conquer.  I'll volunteer to help if there's a consensus
> > > around that approach.  There is a utility attached to
> > > the JIRA that can be used to compare schemas to make sure they are
> > > equivalent.
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > > Paul

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