Is there a way to install the latest nightly package without having to
specify exact date?

Thanks,

Lin

On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 6:13 PM Lausen, Leonard <[email protected]>
wrote:

> From Shanghai, the closest endpoint (automatically chosen endpoint) is in
> Tokyo
> and download speed for mxnet-mkl was on average 1.7 MB/s with a maximum of
> 5
> MB/s during my test.
>
> On Sun, 2019-12-08 at 01:30 +0000, Sheng Zha wrote:
> > > Heres a set of links for today’s builds
> > >
> > > (Plain mxnet, no mkl no cuda)
> > >
> https://apache-mxnet.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> > > (mxnet-mkl)
> > >
> https://apache-mxnet.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet_mkl-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> > > (mxnet-cuXXX)
> > >
> https://apache-mxnet.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet_cu90-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> > >
> https://apache-mxnet.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet_cu92-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> > >
> https://apache-mxnet.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet_cu100-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> > >
> https://apache-mxnet.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet_cu101-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> > > (mxnet-cuXXXmkl)
> > >
> https://apache-mxnet.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet_cu90mkl-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> > >
> https://apache-mxnet.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet_cu92mkl-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> > >
> https://apache-mxnet.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet_cu100mkl-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> > >
> https://apache-mxnet.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet_cu101mkl-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> >
> > These links are not utilizing the s3 accelerate feature (i.e. not backed
> by
> > cloudfront edges). Please use repo.mxnet.io instead. The updated links
> are:
> > (Plain mxnet, no mkl no cuda)
> >
> https://repo.mxnet.io/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> > (mxnet-mkl)
> >
> https://repo.mxnet.io/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet_mkl-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> > (mxnet-cuXXX)
> >
> https://repo.mxnet.io/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet_cu90-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> >
> https://repo.mxnet.io/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet_cu92-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> >
> https://repo.mxnet.io/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet_cu100-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> >
> https://repo.mxnet.io/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet_cu101-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> > (mxnet-cuXXXmkl)
> >
> https://repo.mxnet.io/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet_cu90mkl-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> >
> https://repo.mxnet.io/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet_cu92mkl-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> >
> https://repo.mxnet.io/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet_cu100mkl-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> >
> https://repo.mxnet.io/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet_cu101mkl-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> >
> > When updating the installation doc we should use repo.mxnet.io domain
> name
> > too.
> >
> > Best,
> > -sz
> >
> > On 2019/12/07 17:39:40, "Skalicky, Sam" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > Hi MXNet Community,
> > >
> > > We have been working on getting nightly builds fixed and made available
> > > again. We’ve made another system using AWS CodeBuild & S3 to work
> around the
> > > problems with Jenkins CI, PyPI, etc. It is currently building all the
> > > flavors and publishing to an S3 bucket here:
> > >
> https://us-west-2.console.aws.amazon.com/s3/buckets/apache-mxnet/dist/?region=us-west-2
> > >
> > > There are folders for each set of nightly builds, try out the wheels
> > > starting today 2019-12-07. Builds start at 1:30am PT (9:30am GMT) and
> arrive
> > > in the bucket 30min-2hours later. Inside each folder are the wheels
> for each
> > > flavor of MXNet. Currently we’re only building for linux, builds for
> > > windows/Mac will come later.
> > >
> > > If you want to download the wheels easily you can use a URL in the
> form of:
> > > https://apache-mxnet.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/dist/
> <YYYY-MM-DD>/dist/<mxnet_build>-1.6.0b<YYYYMMDD>-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> > >
> > > Heres a set of links for today’s builds
> > >
> > > (Plain mxnet, no mkl no cuda)
> > >
> https://apache-mxnet.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> > > (mxnet-mkl)
> > >
> https://apache-mxnet.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet_mkl-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> > > (mxnet-cuXXX)
> > >
> https://apache-mxnet.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet_cu90-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> > >
> https://apache-mxnet.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet_cu92-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> > >
> https://apache-mxnet.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet_cu100-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> > >
> https://apache-mxnet.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet_cu101-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> > > (mxnet-cuXXXmkl)
> > >
> https://apache-mxnet.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet_cu90mkl-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> > >
> https://apache-mxnet.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet_cu92mkl-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> > >
> https://apache-mxnet.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet_cu100mkl-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> > >
> https://apache-mxnet.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet_cu101mkl-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> > >
> > > You can easily install these pip wheels in your system either by
> downloading
> > > them to your machine first and then installing by doing:
> > >
> > > pip install /path/to/downloaded/wheel.whl
> > >
> > > Or you can install directly by just giving the link to pip like this:
> > >
> > > pip install
> > >
> https://apache-mxnet.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/dist/2019-12-07/dist/mxnet-1.6.0b20191207-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> > >
> > > Credit goes to everyone involved (in no particular order)
> > > Rakesh Vasudevan
> > > Zach Kimberg
> > > Manu Seth
> > > Sheng Zha
> > > Jun Wu
> > > Pedro Larroy
> > > Chaitanya Bapat
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Sam
> > >
> > >
> > > On Dec 5, 2019, at 1:16 AM, Lausen, Leonard <[email protected]
> <mailt
> > > o:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > >
> > > We don't loose pip by hosting on S3. We just don't host nightly
> releases on
> > > Pypi
> > > servers and mirror them to several hundred mirrors immediately after
> each
> > > build
> > > is published which is very expensive for the Pypi project.. People can
> still
> > > install the nightly builds with pip by specifying the -f option.
> > >
> > > Uploading weekly releases to Pypi will reduce the cost for Pypi by
> ~75% [1].
> > > It
> > > may be acceptable to Pypi, but does it make sense for us? I'm not
> convinced
> > > weekly release on Pypi is a good idea. Consider one release is buggy,
> users
> > > will
> > > need to wait for 7 days for a fix. It doesn't provide good user
> experience.
> > > If someone has a stronger conviction about the value of weekly
> releases on
> > > Pypi,
> > > that person shall please go ahead and propose it in a separate
> discussion
> > > thread.
> > >
> > > Currently we don't have generally working nightly builds to Pypi and
> as a
> > > matter
> > > of fact we know that we can't have them due to Pypi's policy and our
> > > apparent
> > > need for large binaries. Given this fact and that no objection was
> raised by
> > > 2019-12-05 at 05:42 UTC, I conclude we have lazy consensus on stopping
> > > upload
> > > attempts of nightly builds to Pypi.
> > >
> > > With consensus established, we can change the CI job to stop trying to
> > > upload
> > > the nightly builds and then request Pypi to increase the limit. Then
> we have
> > > one
> > > less blocker for the 1.6 release.
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > > Leonard
> > >
> > > [1]: Lower cost due to less releases, but higher cost due to 500MB ->
> 800MB
> > > limit increase. Assuming that the limit increase translates into
> actually
> > > larger
> > > binaries.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2019-12-04 at 22:20 +0100, Marco de Abreu wrote:
> > > Are weekly releases an option? It was brought up as concern that we
> might
> > > lose pip as a pretty common distribution channel where people consume
> > > nightly builds. I don't feel like that concern has been properly
> addressed
> > > so far.
> > >
> > > -Marco
> > >
> > > Lausen, Leonard <[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>
> > > > schrieb am Mi., 4. Dez. 2019,
> > > 04:09:
> > >
> > > As a simple POC to test distribution, you can try installing MXNet
> based on
> > > these 3 URLs:
> > >
> > > pip install --no-cache-dir
> > >
> > >
> https://mxnet-dev.s3.amazonaws.com/mxnet_cu101-1.5.1.post0-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> > > pip install --no-cache-dir
> > >
> > >
> https://mxnet-dev.s3-accelerate.amazonaws.com/mxnet_cu101-1.5.1.post0-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> > > pip install --no-cache-dir https://d19zq12jzu4w95.cloudfront.net/
> > > mxnet_cu101-1.5.1.post0-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> > > <
> > >
> https://d19zq12jzu4w95.cloudfront.net/mxnet_cu101-1.5.1.post0-py2.py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl
> > >
> > >
> > > where --no-cache-dir prevents caching the downloaded file, for the
> purpose
> > > of
> > > testing. (cu101 chosen based on large size)
> > >
> > > The first URL uses standard S3 bucket in US. The second uses S3
> Accelerate
> > > based
> > > on CloudFront CDN. And the third uses CloudFront CDN. I'm adding the
> third
> > > URL,
> > > as S3 Accelerate may or may not use all new CloudFront endpoints yet.
> > >
> > > Regarding voting: Uploading to Pypi is currently impossible, which is a
> > > reality
> > > (so there is no option to continue as we do currently). Pypi folks
> > > indicated
> > > they will unblock our uploads to Pypi once we stop uploading nightly
> > > releases
> > > and taking up 20% of their ressources [1].
> > >
> > > If there are any shortcomings or problems identified with uploading to
> S3,
> > > we
> > > can work to address them. But for now, status quo is broken and this
> seems
> > > the
> > > only solution addressing Pypi's problem.
> > >
> > > I don't mind if you state that you object to lazy consensus and start a
> > > vote. If
> > > your "maybe [...] start a proper vote" was supposed to be an objection
> to
> > > lazy
> > > consensus, please state so clearly (I'm not sure if "maybe" qualifies
> as
> > > objection). Though I think it only makes sense with at least 2 options
> to
> > > vote
> > > on. Status quo is not a meaningful option, as it is already broken.
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > > Leonard
> > >
> > > [1]:
> https://github.com/pypa/pypi-support/issues/50#issuecomment-560479706
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2019-12-03 at 19:28 +0100, Marco de Abreu wrote:
> > > Excellent! Could we maybe come up with a POC and a quick writeup and
> then
> > > start a proper vote after everyone verified that it covers their
> > > use-cases?
> > > -Marco
> > >
> > > Sheng Zha <[email protected]> schrieb am Di., 3. Dez. 2019, 19:24:
> > >
> > > Yes, there is. We can also make it easier to access by using a
> > > geo-location based DNS server so that China users are directed to that
> > > local mirror. The rest of the world is already covered by the global
> > > cloudfront.
> > >
> > > -sz
> > >
> > > On 2019/12/03 18:22:22, Marco de Abreu <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > Isn't there an s3 endpoint in Beijing?
> > >
> > > It seems like this topic still warrants some discussion and thus I'd
> > >
> > > prefer
> > > if we don't move forward with lazy consensus.
> > >
> > > -Marco
> > >
> > > Tao Lv <[email protected]> schrieb am Di., 3. Dez. 2019, 14:31:
> > >
> > > * For pypi, we can use mirrors.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 9:28 PM Tao Lv <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > As we have many users in China, I'm considering the
> > > accessibility of
> > > S3.
> > > For pip, we can mirrors.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 3:24 PM Lausen, Leonard
> > >
> > > <[email protected]
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > I would like to remind everyone that lazy consensus is assumed
> > > if no
> > > objections
> > > are raised before 2019-12-05 at 05:42 UTC. There has been some
> > >
> > > discussion
> > > about
> > > the proposal, but to my understanding no objections were
> > > raised.
> > > If the proposal is accepted, MXNet releases would be installed
> > > via
> > >   pip install mxnet
> > >
> > > And release candidates via
> > >
> > >  pip install --pre mxnet
> > >
> > > (or with the respective cuda version specifier appended etc.)
> > >
> > > To obtain releases built automatically from the master branch,
> > > users
> > > would need
> > > to specify something like "-f
> > > http://mxnet.s3.amazonaws.com/mxnet-X/nightly.html"; option to
> > > pip.
> > > Best regards
> > > Leonard
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2019-12-02 at 05:42 +0000, Lausen, Leonard wrote:
> > > Hi MXNet Community,
> > >
> > > since more than 2 months our binary Python nightly releases
> > >
> > > published
> > > on Pypi
> > > are broken. The problem is that our binaries exceed Pypi's
> > > size
> > > limit.
> > > Decreasing the binary size by adding compression breaks
> > >
> > > third-party
> > > libraries
> > > loading libmxnet.so
> > >
> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-mxnet/issues/16193
> > > Sheng requested Pypi to increase their size limit:
> > > https://github.com/pypa/pypi-support/issues/50
> > >
> > > Currently "the biggest cost for PyPI from [the many MXNet
> > > binaries
> > > with
> > > nightly
> > > release to Pypi] is the bandwidth consumed when several
> > > hundred
> > > mirrors
> > > attempt
> > > to mirror each release immediately after it's published". So
> > > Pypi
> > > is
> > > not
> > > inclined to allow us to upload even larger binaries on a
> > > nightly
> > > schedule.
> > > Their compromise is to allow it on a weekly cadence.
> > >
> > > However, I would like the community to revisit the necessity
> > > of
> > > releasing pre-
> > > release binaries to Pypi on a nightly (or weekly) cadence.
> > >
> > > Instead, we
> > > can
> > > release nightly binaries ONLY to a public S3 bucket and
> > > instruct
> > > users
> > > to
> > > install from there. On our side, we only need to prepare a
> > > html
> > > document that
> > > contains links to all released nightly binaries.
> > > Finally users will install the nightly releases via
> > >
> > >  pip install --pre mxnet-cu101 -f
> > >
> > > http://mxnet.s3.amazonaws.com/mxnet-cu101/
> > > nightly.html
> > >
> > > Instead of
> > >
> > >  pip install --pre mxnet-cu101
> > >
> > > Of course proper releases and release candidates should
> > > still be
> > > made
> > > available
> > > via Pypi. Thus releases would be installed via
> > >
> > >  pip install mxnet-cu101
> > >
> > > And release candidates via
> > >
> > >  pip install --pre mxnet-cu101
> > >
> > > This will substantially reduce the costs of the Pypi project
> > > and
> > > in
> > > fact
> > > matches
> > > the installation experience provided by PyTorch. I don't
> > > think the
> > > benefit of
> > > not including "-f
> > >
> > > http://mxnet.s3.amazonaws.com/mxnet-cu101/nightly.html";
> > > matches the costs we currently externalize to the Pypi team.
> > >
> > > This suggestion seems uncontroversial to me. Thus I would
> > > like to
> > > start
> > > lazy
> > > consensus. If there are no objections, I will assume lazy
> > >
> > > consensus on
> > > stopping
> > > nightly releases to Pypi in 72hrs.
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > > Leonard
> > >
> > >
>

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