On Nov 24, 2010, at 10:51 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:

> 
> On Nov 24, 2010, at 6:19 PM, Brett Porter wrote:
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>> On 25/11/2010, at 12:12 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 24, 2010, at 5:44 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
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>>>> I'm not against any of the changes you made and it is my fault for not 
>>>> noticing earlier. As a general rule I don't believe the Apache pom should 
>>>> contain alpha or beta releases.
>>> 
>>> I would say they can't. You potentially destabilize someone's environment 
>>> entirely. We don't have the best track record for making sure things work, 
>>> the WAR plugin is a recent case in point. If there are betas, maybe on a 
>>> case by case basis. If there are actually alpha plugins in there then -1.
>> 
>> Let's put it in context...
>> 
>> The betas are:
>> - assembly plugin 2.2-beta-5 (was in beta before)
>> - site plugin 3.0-beta-3 (only in maven 3 profile, no alternative)
>> - enforcer plugin 1.0-beta-1 (very stable version).
>> - release plugin 2.0-beta-9.
>> 
>> There's been nothing upgraded to a beta - they were there already.
>> 
>> assembly 2.2 and enforcer 1.0 were released recently, and the release plugin 
>> has been out for ages. They can probably go into the next parent POM release 
>> (I've just updated trunk).
>> 
>> Beyond that, I agree - let's not use beta-quality code (or better, not ship 
>> beta-quality code :)
>> 
> 
> Actually, my point was really that if they were good enough to put in the 
> apache parent pom then they almost certainly aren't beta quality code.  Even 
> with the site plugin, now that maven 3 is released whatever is available is 
> all there is so it might as well be released.
> 
> BTW - the gpg plugin was also a beta in 7 so at least there is one less in 
> this release.
> 

Agreed. They should all be released, and then no subsequent alphas or betas. 

> Ralph
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Thanks,

Jason

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