Actually, that is an interesting point, it could include that.
Enterprise is aimed more at the development cycle, but that could easily include a "known stable and compatible with this toolset" maven release.

Andy

On 13 Apr 2007, at 14:01, David Roussel wrote:


Hmm, that's a good idea.  A Maven distribution based on a given Maven
release.  Is this like what "Maven Enterprise" will be?


John Casey wrote:

Sure, my only point was that without this (and the standard packaging
definitions) _nothing_ will work...it's just a gut-level uneasiness, not
necessarily a big problem.

On a side note, I think it'd be neat to provide a maven distro that has a small internal repo with the latest releases of the plugins in the pom and jar lifecycles...maybe with the packaging/super-POM in there too...then,
you
could always override and get from central. That would make Maven almost
offline-proof right out of the box...

-john

On 4/12/07, Hayes, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Right I get that.  That would be pretty annoying.

Maybe instead of a parent POM, an import facility could be used that can
grab the same centralized POM (Multiple-inheritance almost :-).

To John's comment, I don't see this being a big offline challenge as this centralized POM would be a released version that could safely be cached
in a
local repository, like any other artifact, i.e. it would follow the
snapshot / release methodology.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian E. Fox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:10 AM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: RE: Remove auto-resolution of plugin versions from Maven 2.1

Same here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephane Nicoll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 9:02 AM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: Remove auto-resolution of plugin versions from Maven 2.1

Won't work every time.

We have a corporate pom, it's pretty much stable and it won't change
often. All our projects inherit from that one, it will be a pain to
update
everything every time we would want to upgrade some plug-ins.

Stéphane

On 4/12/07, Hayes, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'd like to give my 2 cents on this issue.

Would it be possible to maintain a super POM on repo1 that contains a vetted set of plugin versions and then version that POM appropriately
based on new releases of core plugins?  Then it would simply be an
inclusion of a specific parent version in a project POM that would
control which plugins to take. I think this is what people probably do internally but if it is maintained on repo1, it would save a lot of
work for a lot of people.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian E. Fox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 10:40 PM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: RE: Remove auto-resolution of plugin versions from Maven 2.1


If I need a specific version (usual to workaround a known issue) then
I specify it in the the pom. Otherwise I want the latest.
This is the current problem, where builds are done with undetermined
versions. (ie the version for dev a might not match dev b)

For snapshot builds if I will use specified, then latest.

For a released build, I want the pom to be transformed and fully
locked down so that the build is reproducible. And I don't want to
do that manually.

I would expect that my snapshot builds to be exactly the same as the
eventual release build for that version. The last thing I need is
release to decide for me which versions to use. I do want to do it
manually, because I want to try out each new plugin before I bless it and allow it into the build process for the rest of the team. I've had
too many occurrences where a plugin change breaks my build (I'm ok
with that, it's necessary for forward progress). By manually vetting a
plugin, it gives me a chance to make any adjustments needed.

It's no different than how we upgrade Maven itself: I have used
enforcer to lock my build to 2.0.5 until I can get all the depMgt
straightened out and then I will move everyone forward.

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