There are some issues with autoexport, you guys might want to take a
peek at the HokeyPokey's exportspace command:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/sandbox/hokeypokey/trunk/
Its still a work in progress, but it basically exports a space via
xmlrpc and applies a velocity template and then does some massaging
of urls. Currently the massaging is hardcoded... the rules need to
be externalized. And the multi-space exporter needs to be hooked up
too.
But, the idea is to have a regular cron job execute the exporter
using templates and resources that are checked into svn, which makes
it easier to manage and allows for better oversight of template changes.
And by using this method pages with dynamic tags (like include or
jiraissues, etc) will also get refreshed.
Anyways... its a work in progress, but worth a look if you are just
getting started.
--jason
On Mar 30, 2007, at 12:19 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
On 30 Mar 07, at 3:06 PM 30 Mar 07, Emmanuel Venisse wrote:
Jason van Zyl a écrit :
On 30 Mar 07, at 10:49 AM 30 Mar 07, Brett Porter wrote:
While you make plenty of valid points about Contegix, it's
completely unrelated to what I'm arguing for.
How is starting to move things away from Contegix, which is you
suggestion, not related? The subsequent argument would then be
made that we already started this process so why not move the
rest. Of course it's related.
If you are successful in bringing them in to the ASF
infrastructure as you've proposed, it should be a no-brainer to
move a cwiki space to that infrastructure. So that's a non-issue
as far as this discussion is concerned.
We're better off on cwiki than where we are now. We have no
admin privileges (I'm currently locked out of editing the
CONTINUUM space)
Did you ask? I asked Ben for JIRA privs and that took 5 minutes.
, and the setup is not conducive to deploying into the Apache
site. cwiki is already running the stuff we need. People I trust
recommend it.
The stuff is a plugin which can be installed in any Confluence
instance. So that's not an onerous task.
We've wanted to do this for months, and this is an avenue that
actually makes it easier for us - I continue to suggest we take it.
I'm simply not in favour of moving anything away from Contegix.
Taking the output from the export plugin and scp'ing it to people
is not hard either.
If Ben is ok to install the plugin and if we can manage the scp to
people, it's ok for me. But I don't know how we'll can manage it,
we don't have shell access to codehaus.
The plugin will be installed and the PMC will have access:
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/HAUS-1489
Jason.
Emmanuel
Jason.
- Brett
On 31/03/2007, at 12:23 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
On 28 Mar 07, at 5:22 PM 28 Mar 07, Brett Porter wrote:
(moving to main dev list as scope has increased)
On 29/03/2007, at 12:28 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
Similar to what Emmanuel suggested, how about we move *all*
the current spaces to cwiki, avoiding any further
fragmentation, and in fact removing the current fragmentation
between the apache site and the codehaus confluence, as well
as getting all of the above benefits?
Before biting the bullet we can do a trial with this single
SCM page.
What do folks think?
I think it's a bad idea to move from a stable setup we have
with great support from people who have helped us at every
turn. I would like to suggest we stay with Contegix wherever
possible and this discussion is still ongoing with infra and
they have yet to get back with SLA policies. I believe it is in
the best interest of users and the community to provide the
best infrastructure as possible and there is no doubt in my
mind that is Contegix. For anything we have ever done for JIRA,
Confluence or the Central Repository they have been there for
us. We gain nothing by moving any of this to Apache.
Contegix has run JIRA and Confluence for us when these services
were not available at Apache and they have been more than
accommodating when we needed a new repository infrastructure.
I have been trying to incorporate Contegix officially into the
infrastructure at Apache so that we can keep everyone happy. I
am not willing, nor do I support any move to Apache without
infra deciding their policies, nor am I overly excited about
the possibility of any of our infrastructure being moved to a
place where no one is really accountable. Contegix is
responsible, accountable, a pleasure to work with and they have
bent over backward to help us. We are relying on Jeff Turner
who is already overworked in trying to manage our setup whereas
at Contegix we have a team who are very knowledgeable about
Atlassian products because they resell them. We also have
people here who's first response is a derisive comment about
the tools we use.
My vote is for Contegix to continue the great job they have
done and seeing as infra has not decided anything or contacted
me after I attended the last board meeting, I am going to go
ahead with an official proposal starting with our PMC to let
each PMC decide on their infrastructure needs and use whomever
they like working on the integration strategies and policies
that will make everyone comfortable. Until that time I don't
think it's prudent because you will potentially jeopardize the
infrastructure used by everyone using Maven.
Jason.
Cheers,
Brett
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