On 11 Dec 06, at 11:45 AM 11 Dec 06, Graham Leggett wrote:
On Mon, December 11, 2006 6:10 pm, Jason van Zyl wrote:
Some who is not developing the code cannot call a vote. At least one
that's going to actually be voted on. I can't walk into the httpd
mailing list and ask for a release of httpd. Come on.
I am not aware of any barrier stopping anybody on the httpd list or
any
ASF list asking for a release.
You didn't ask for a release, you tried to call a vote. Very
different things.
Or to state this another way, how does a
community get developed if new community members are not allowed to
participate in the process?
Ah, like everyone else? Contribute patches for plugins you're
interested in, report issues? I don't see either patches, or any
feedback in JIRA about issues pertaining to the EAR plugin. I didn't
see anything in there from you at first glance, maybe I missed them.
You can participate all you want, I never said you couldn't participate.
I am also concerned about the idea that only "code developers" have
the
right to express themselves within a project. There are many many
valuable
contributions that can be made without code, from bug reporting, to
documentation, to helping users, to identifying usability problems
in the
wild with feedback.
I also never said that only developers can express themselves. Please
stop trying to assume what I think simply because I told you that you
haven't much right to call a vote on something you don't appear to
participate in much at all. Namely the EAR plugin.
As a group, and myself specifically, take lots of feedback from
people. We've given folks access to our site so non-developers can
participate in documentation, we created a sandbox so people like you
can actually create patches for things you're interested like the EAR
plugin, and created a Wiki space that's open for anyone to contribute
to. Jochen, for example, wanted to get the JAR plugin out and had
lots of patches, he wanted a release, he asked, I helped him apply
them and we released it. That's an example of how it works and how
you can participate. Do some work, get a say. It's pretty standard
Apache stuff.
Jason.
Regards,
Graham
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