On 19 Jun 06, at 8:30 AM 19 Jun 06, Jeff Jensen wrote:

Contrarian, one thing that is useful about the current approach is the
browser search feature. It works pretty well to find the topics on a doc page with lots of entries and common search words. Hopefully the reorg
solution doesn't lose a search-ability/adds a better search.


That page is generated so there's no reason that can't remain as a view. This is why I think users need to get involved because people do work in different ways but we need to see what people want. I would urge anyone who is really interested to take a site.xml and swizzle into a view they think would work and publish it somewhere for us to look at. Probably 20 minutes of work and you'll go a long way to making the Maven site better.

jason.


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On 19 Jun 06, at 8:08 AM 19 Jun 06, Geoffrey De Smet wrote:

Humans aren't capable to read more then 9 entries.
Many of the questions asked on the user list are actually in the
guides.
So why don't they find it?

http://maven.apache.org/guides/index.html
links to a lot of good guides, but the way it is structured is plain
wrong imho:
- When people want to learn something about for example site
deployment and they get the choice from "Mini Guides", "Introductory
Material", "Reference", ... they don't know what to choose.
- When the pick "Mini Guides" they have to read 20+ entries, so 11 + to
many.


Yup, I think everyone agrees. I just tried to jam as much content in there
in as short a period of time as I could. A simple categorization/trail
mechanism would be better.

How would it look to you ideally? Would you categorize those and place the
categories on the front page? Point to a documentation page with the
categories listed there? I think these are really the questions we would like answers to. Guidance from users for our user documentation which will
be the bulk of our documentation. Would you be willing to make a quick
sample of what you think would work best?

Jason.

A refactor of that page, into a tree based structured on the
functionality (not the format) will help a lot.
The format (mini guide or introdcutory material) can be mentioned next
to the entry.

Brett Porter wrote:
John Casey wrote:
Hi everyone,

I know we've talked about this quite a bit already. Actually, I'm
having trouble finding the past threads on this topic in my
email...can someone who knows please link them in?

btw:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/maven-dev/200603.mbox/%
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However, I'm reading through them and going to reincoporate any
additional thoughts into the current discussions (as I should have
done *ages* ago).
- Brett

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With kind regards,
Geoffrey De Smet


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