Stephane
thank you so much.
I think we will be able to cut a maintenaince release soon with your branch.

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Enrico

Il giorno mer 27 mar 2019 alle ore 15:45 Tibor Digana
<[email protected]> ha scritto:
>
> Stephane, What exists in our agreement are two issues (SUREFIRE-1546 and
> SUREFIRE-1614), you will have them but no multiple releases (not effective
> in the perspectives of out spare time).
> We need people like you who will support us in 3.0.0-M4. This is the main
> goal.
> The issues SUREFIRE-1546 and SUREFIRE-1614 will be delivered to you, but no
> more and not less.
> The thing is how you will participate by your hands in Java code. The
> result depends on you.
> But again, this what we solve here is not important for ASF. It is
> important for you and your agenda.
> For the project is important the deal we made several years ago, when we
> planned to provide Extensions API for the Users. To get there we need to
> unfortunately rework internal code in Surefire project which takes really a
> lots of time and spends private energy, and thus 2.22.2 is less important
> from this perspective. We have to support long standing vision but the
> version 2.22.2 is something short lasting which you and some Spring guys
> wanted due to they have a problem* with their own internal rules* and
> technically Spring project can solve this problem with 3.0.0-M3. Therefore
> we are wasting the time if we write the code for you. Therefore you should
> provide pull request by yourself as this is OSS and we can make a code
> review. But our effort would be really only short time relevant if we
> dedicate too much time in 2.22.2 with these two Jira issues. We have few
> active Java developers and "stealing" them for your activity means that we
> are not effective and slow. Therefore, Stephane pls prepare the commits on
> your responsibility on GitHub in your pull request and we can invest the
> time to check it including the build check and cutting the release version.
>
> T
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 8:11 AM Stephane Nicoll <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 12:26 PM Tibor Digana <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Stephane,
> > >
> > > >> I wanted to make sure that the JUnit5 story was functional
> > >
> > > I really don't like politics.
> >
> >
> > What's that supposed to mean? If you want to quote something, please quote
> > the full sentence. The full sentence is *"I wanted to make sure that the
> > JUnit5 story was functional with the vintage engine and the current GA of
> > surefire." *which I believe is an accurate description of the current
> > situation.
> >
> >
> > > Did you see SUREFIRE-1614?
> >
> >
> > I did, that's the issue I backported. What are you talking about?
> >
> >
> >
> > > It really does not
> > > break functionality (only affects logger) and SUREFIRE-1614 is not worth
> > of
> > > making release with single improvement. If you want to be consistent, you
> > > should stand on your original list of issues in your first email and this
> > > is: SUREFIRE-1546 and SUREFIRE-1614.
> > >
> >
> > I wanted to but someone from the JUnit team said that backporting that
> > second issue "makes no sense". What am I supposed to do with that
> > information exactly?
> >
> > At the end of the day, you decide what the outcome of this request has to
> > be. Spring Boot can't upgrade its base usage to JUnit 5 because it does not
> > work properly when combined with the vintage engine. That's all I am trying
> > to fix.
> >
> > I also think that It doesn't matter how many issues you have fixed in a
> > maintenance release as long as that helps the community. Others members
> > here have expressed a +1 to that proposal.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > S.
> >
> >
> >
> > > We in Slack discuss technical details what we do in milestone versions.
> > > Enrico and Christian are active developers but we need to have more
> > > developers like you Stephane and I would appreciate to have additionally
> > > the previous developers on the board as well and grow the team, i.e.
> > > Andreas and Kristian.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Tibor
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 5:11 PM Stephane Nicoll <
> > [email protected]
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks for having a look Tibor!
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 4:37 PM Tibor Digana <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The diff looks good.
> > > > >
> > > > > Stephane, I guess this only 50% work you wanted to have.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I wanted to make sure that the JUnit5 story was functional with the
> > > vintage
> > > > engine and the current GA of surefire. It looks like this change does
> > the
> > > > job for us.
> > > >
> > > > As for the other change, I read Christan's reply, quoting below:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *supporting "@DisplayName" and therefore also
> > > > backportinghttps://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SUREFIRE-1546
> > > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SUREFIRE-1546> to the 2.x
> > branch
> > > > makesalmost *no* sense to me. *
> > > >
> > > > As you've explained, backporting this change would be more challenging
> > > and
> > > > it looks like it isn't a blocker in its current form anyway so I have
> > no
> > > > opinion as how we should proceed. If the team feels that backporting it
> > > is
> > > > important, I can give it another go.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > S.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's not make too many versions because this would be a precedent.
> > > > >
> > > > > Question about JUnit5 display name. Currently our solution turns XML
> > > file
> > > > > name and XML content to the textual display name and not fully
> > > qualified
> > > > > class name. This means that the class name would not appear in the
> > file
> > > > > name of XML report. We want to give the user chance to configure this
> > > in
> > > > > 3.0.0-M4 and alter this behavior. So it's good to make a consensus
> > here
> > > > and
> > > > > agree on it. I prefer more complex configuration with MOJO parameter
> > as
> > > > > Object and not boolean. Since currently we have
> > > > > *StatelessXmlReporter.java*,
> > > > > I prefer opening the internal impl with this parameter in plugin
> > > > > configuration and alter the behavior in POM or in user's Java code:
> > > > >
> > > > > <stateless-reporter
> > > > > impl="org.apace.maven.plugin.surefire.report.StatelessXmlReporter">
> > > <!--
> > > > by
> > > > > default -->
> > > > >     <useFileName>human readable</useFileName> <!-- default: fully
> > > > qualified
> > > > > class name -->
> > > > >     <useTestCaseClass>human readable</ useTestCaseClass>
> > > > >     <useTestCaseMethod>human readable</ useTestCaseMethod>
> > > > > </ stateless-reporter>
> > > > >
> > > > > If somebody prefers streaming the report on the fly to YAML, we can
> > > > provide
> > > > > same for Stateful reporter interface.
> > > > > Unfortunately all three attributes of the object must have same
> > > settings
> > > > in
> > > > > 2.x. The reason is that it is not possible to have it so sooth
> > behaving
> > > > in
> > > > > 2.x. We in 3.0 rework internal implementation, a lot of classes, to
> > > > support
> > > > > many new features/fixes (support this in JUnit5 Provider and
> > > additionally
> > > > > to resolve critical bugs, ...).
> > > > > But the benefit in this concept is that we define it once and we
> > won't
> > > > have
> > > > > any reason to change this concept again in another version.
> > > > > Makes sense?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > Tibor
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 3:38 PM Stephane Nicoll <
> > > > [email protected]
> > > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hey,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can someone working on surefire confirm the interest of creating
> > that
> > > > > > branch in the main repo and kick-off a release if a review is
> > > > > satisfactory?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > S.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 4:09 PM Stephane Nicoll <
> > > > > [email protected]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've created a `2.22.x` branch based on the 2.22.1 tag and I've
> > > > > > > cherry-picked the issue we need to get proper support for the
> > > vintage
> > > > > > > engine[1]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This 2.22.2-SNAPSHOT works for our purpose so I was wondering if
> > > more
> > > > > > > fixes could be backported and/or if someone would like to review
> > > > those
> > > > > > > changes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > S.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [1] https://github.com/snicoll/maven-surefire/tree/2.22.x
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 1:46 PM Tibor Digana <
> > > [email protected]
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Hi  Stephane,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> We are talking only about these two commits [1]?
> > > > > > >> Notice that 001e807 modifies file names to the verbose one which
> > > > > breaks
> > > > > > >> backwards compatibility and this should not forcibly (by
> > default)
> > > > > happen
> > > > > > >> in
> > > > > > >> your version/branch.
> > > > > > >> Try to fork the project, make a local branch and then reset HEAD
> > > to
> > > > > [2],
> > > > > > >> i.e. git reset --hard 19006aa70f36705f399b8c105a16f636904f00f3
> > > > > > >> And then cherrypick both commits [1].
> > > > > > >> Make sure the order is correct but it won't be so
> > straightforward.
> > > > The
> > > > > > >> tests have to pass (mvn install -P run-its).
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> [1]:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > https://github.com/apache/maven-surefire/commit/f517d349ede0e15229e3c48f45d10dabc72a3fc9
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > https://github.com/apache/maven-surefire/commit/001e8075b8db7861aaefb5af4c256d919a9b2e7a
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> [2]:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > https://github.com/apache/maven-surefire/commit/19006aa70f36705f399b8c105a16f636904f00f3
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Cheers
> > > > > > >> Tibor
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 8:54 AM Stephane Nicoll <
> > > > > > >> [email protected]>
> > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > Hi everyone,
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > It's great to see the progress on Surefire 3.0 and I wanted to
> > > > reach
> > > > > > >> out to
> > > > > > >> > discuss a practicable problem with the 2.x line. There are a
> > > > number
> > > > > of
> > > > > > >> > fixes for JUnit 5 that are only available in the 3.x line that
> > > > isn't
> > > > > > GA
> > > > > > >> > yet. [1][2]
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Putting my Spring Boot hat for a min, this actually prevents
> > us
> > > > from
> > > > > > >> > upgrading our test support to JUnit 5: our plan is to offer
> > > > maximum
> > > > > > >> > flexibility by providing the vintage engine (so that users can
> > > > keep
> > > > > > >> their
> > > > > > >> > tests and migrate at their own pace).
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > We can't upgrade to a milestone as our upgrade policy prevents
> > > > that
> > > > > > >> > (regardless of how stable this is and especially since
> > backward
> > > > > > >> > incompatible changes have been pushed to the latest
> > milestone).
> > > So
> > > > > > we're
> > > > > > >> > kind of stuck.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Would there be an appetite to backport those fixes and
> > release a
> > > > > > 2.22.2?
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Thanks,
> > > > > > >> > S.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SUREFIRE-1614
> > > > > > >> > [2]
> > > > > > >>
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/SUREFIRE/issues/SUREFIRE-1546
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >

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