Any news? Everyone is waiting for a new great release of surefire Sorry I don't want to annoy, I know any of us is giving its time as volunteer.
Enrico Il mar 27 feb 2018, 15:18 Stephen Connolly <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > On Mon 26 Feb 2018 at 20:55, Tibor Digana <tibordig...@apache.org> wrote: > >> Hi Enrico, >> >> I do not like this test because this may easily be against Java Prog. >> Lang. >> Spec. >> I have no idea why Kristian created like this and allowed testing >> non-ASCII >> characters in Java test method and Java test class. >> Here are Japanese or Chinese characters. >> The point was to fix https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SUREFIRE-857 >> I saw Windows having problems with file name while copying original file >> name with non-ASCII characters and Java placed question marks ??? in the >> file name instead. >> I think better could be to print non-ASCII characters on std/out and check >> if it exists in the report XML. >> >> IMHO the class/method name as Java identifiers should be a-zA-Z0-9_$ and >> should not start with a number. > > > While that is a noble ideal, the java spec does not agree with you. Any > Unicode letter can be used for method/class names (though there are some OS > int interop issues if the user chooses to go down that path. > > We have to be forgiving in what we accept and strict in what we produce > > >> >> >> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/65475/valid-characters-in-a-java-class-name >> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/11774099/legal-identifiers-in-java >> https://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se7/html/jls-3.html#jls-3.8 >> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/codeconventions-135099.html >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 2:32 PM, Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Branch SUREFIRE-1489 works almost fine on my jdk10 / Linux Fedora >> > >> > Only 1 unit test failure ( I think this is addressed in another branch) >> > >> > checkFileNamesWithUnicode(org.apache.maven.surefire.its. >> > UnicodeTestNamesIT) >> > Time elapsed: 0.001 sec <<< FAILURE! >> > junit.framework.AssertionFailedError: Did not find expected message in >> log >> > at junit.framework.Assert.fail(Assert.java:57) >> > at >> > org.apache.maven.surefire.its.fixture.TestFile. >> > assertContainsText(TestFile.java:142) >> > at >> > org.apache.maven.surefire.its.UnicodeTestNamesIT. >> > checkFileNamesWithUnicode(UnicodeTestNamesIT.java:67) >> > >> > >> > I have tested branch feature/jdk-10 from Olivier and it is working the >> same >> > >> > Tests run: 1, Failures: 1, Errors: 0, Skipped: 0, Time elapsed: 4.009 >> sec >> > <<< FAILURE! >> > checkFileNamesWithUnicode(org.apache.maven.surefire.its. >> > UnicodeTestNamesIT) >> > Time elapsed: 0.001 sec <<< FAILURE! >> > junit.framework.AssertionFailedError: Did not find expected message in >> log >> > at junit.framework.Assert.fail(Assert.java:57) >> > at >> > org.apache.maven.surefire.its.fixture.TestFile. >> > assertContainsText(TestFile.java:142) >> > at >> > org.apache.maven.surefire.its.UnicodeTestNamesIT. >> > checkFileNamesWithUnicode(UnicodeTestNamesIT.java:67) >> > >> > >> > I did run a >> > git diff SUREFIRE-1489 feature/jdk10 >> > >> > and it seems to me that in SUREFIRE-1489 we only have changes in Jenkins >> > DSL files >> > >> > >> > what about merging SUREFIRE-1489 to master ? this will fix all the >> problems >> > reported during last days and fix the Jenkins pipeline >> > >> > hope that helps >> > >> > Enrico >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > 2018-02-25 23:25 GMT+01:00 Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com>: >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > Il dom 25 feb 2018, 21:45 Tibor Digana <tibordig...@apache.org> ha >> > > scritto: >> > > >> > >> Hi Enrico, >> > >> >> > >> Sorry for notifying. >> > >> I would like to ask you for a help. >> > >> Maybe you can see my previous e-mail in this thread on mailing list >> with >> > >> CLI running a build on the branch SUREFIRE-1489. >> > >> Can you please try to run the build on your side and let us know the >> > >> result? >> > >> I appreciate! >> > >> >> > > >> > > Sure will do tomorrow, today I have run tests with jdk8 on that non >> > > masterbranch and all worked well. The suite takes very long time so I >> > will >> > > try tomorrow with jdk10 >> > > >> > > Master is broken for me too, but we already knew >> > > >> > > Enrico >> > > >> > > >> > >> (If the CLI command is not clear, do not hesitate to ask beforehand.) >> > >> >> > >> Thx >> > >> Tibor >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 9:34 PM, Tibor Digana < >> tibordig...@apache.org> >> > >> wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> Hey guys, >> > >>> >> > >>> We really do not properly read the e-mails. >> > >>> All the links you sent me was from master branch. >> > >>> >> > >>> We are NOT working in master branch. Do not test master yet. >> > >>> >> > >>> Our focus is the branch named "SUREFIRE-1489". >> > >>> Please run only the build on branch "SUREFIRE-1489" and nothing else >> > >>> yet. We should proceed step by step. >> > >>> >> > >>> Please try to be patient and: >> > >>> $ git clone .... >> > >>> $ git fetch >> > >>> $ git checkout SUREFIRE-1489 >> > >>> $ mvn clean install -nsu -P run-its -Djdk.home=/path/to/jdk10 >> > >>> -Djacoco.skip=true >> > >>> >> > >>> I will be waiting. >> > >>> >> > >>> All my previous emails about ASF Jenkins was from the branch >> > >>> "SUREFIRE-1489" and not the master. >> > >>> >> > >>> With Best Regards >> > >>> Tibor >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> >> > wrote: >> > >>> >> > >> something very interesting on my side..... >> > >>>> It works with empty on ASF Jenkins: https://builds. >> > >>>> apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven/job/maven-surefire-fs/ >> > >>>> >> > >>> But not in this Jenkins >> https://jenkins.webtide.net/job/sandbox/job/ >> > >>>> surefire-master-jdk8/5/console or using Travis >> > https://travis-ci.org/ >> > >>>> olamy/maven-surefire/builds/345892147 >> > >>>> >> > >>> Sorry I cannot test locally with an empty repo as my internet is >> very >> > >>>> slow today. >> > >>>> but anyway we should not have a build with a need of an empty >> repo... >> > >>>> Funny as ironically the Maven team cannot have a stable build >> working >> > >>>> everywhere :-) >> > >>>> >> > >>> >> > >>>> On 25 February 2018 at 19:45, Robert Scholte <rfscho...@apache.org >> > >> > >>>> wrote: >> > >>>> >> > >>>>> Hi all, >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> I'm on *master* and simply running 'mvn clean verify' and the >> > >>>>> unittests of Surefire Bootstrap fail. >> > >>>>> I get 28 errors, which can be brought back into 2 exceptions: >> > >>>>> - java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: Could not initialize class >> > >>>>> org.apache.maven.surefire.booter.SystemUtils >> > >>>>> - java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/commons/lang3/ >> > SystemUtils >> > >>>>> Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: >> > >>>>> org.apache.commons.lang3.JavaVersion >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> I've removed my local repository, same result. >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Robert >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 04:04:02 +0100, Tibor Digana < >> > >>>>> tibordig...@apache.org> wrote: >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Hello Olivier, Robert, >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> I think this issue you saw was caused by the old hack with >> > >>>>> commons-lang3 in module surefire-booter/pom.xml. >> > >>>>> I reproduced it on WindowsXP but not on Windows7, funny. >> > >>>>> I removed the change in the pom.xml and committed (git push >> force) to >> > >>>>> our branch SUREFIRE-1489. Now the branch SUREFIRE-1489 contains >> > changes >> > >>>>> from three JIRAs, but that's ok, we will create new ones according >> > to Jiras. >> > >>>>> I run this command: >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> mvn clean install -P run-its -Dintegration-test-port=8000 >> > -Dintegration-test-stop-port=8001 "-Djdk.home=d:\Program >> > Files\Java\jdk10" -Djacoco.skip=true >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> I am overriding the branch, so it is better to clone it fresh. >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Please let me know if it is fine on your side. >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> With Best Regards, >> > >>>>> Tibor >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 2:51 AM, Tibor Digana < >> > tibordig...@apache.org> >> > >>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>>> Try to delete local maven repository on Travis and run the branch >> > >>>>>> SUREFIRE-1489 with --no-snapshot-updates. >> > >>>>>> I hope we will have good results. >> > >>>>>> Good night! >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 2:34 AM, Tibor Digana < >> > tibordig...@apache.org >> > >>>>>> > wrote: >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> What branch is for the build /maven-surefire-fs? >> > >>>>>>> Any special build configuration or sources are different from >> > master? >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 2:28 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org >> > >> > >>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> Did you read my emails? The thread with subject " [3/3] >> > >>>>>>>> maven-surefire git >> > >>>>>>>> commit: Revert "[SUREFIRE-1473] upgrade commons-lang3 to avoid >> NPE >> > >>>>>>>> on >> > >>>>>>>> jdk10" " >> > >>>>>>>> I assume no so here few links >> > >>>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven/job/maven- >> > >>>>>>>> surefire-fs/2/console >> > >>>>>>>> https://jenkins.webtide.net/job/sandbox/job/surefire- >> > >>>>>>>> master-jdk8/4/console >> > >>>>>>>> https://travis-ci.org/olamy/maven-surefire/builds/345611495 >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> There are all Jenkins or Travis builds with an empty maven >> repo. >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> On 25 February 2018 at 11:11, Tibor Digana < >> > tibordig...@apache.org> >> > >>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> > Hi Olivier, >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > I am trying to be friendly and helpful. >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > Maybe a hint: >> > >>>>>>>> > One problem I found weeks ago was in Maven Central which >> > >>>>>>>> contained a >> > >>>>>>>> > SNAPSHOT version built with Java 1.7. >> > >>>>>>>> > I had to do this on my PC: >> > >>>>>>>> > $ mvn >> > >>>>>>>> > org.codehaus.mojo:build-helper-maven-plugin:3.0.0: >> > >>>>>>>> remove-project-artifact >> > >>>>>>>> > -Dbuildhelper.failOnError=false >> > >>>>>>>> > $ mvn install *-nsu* >> > >>>>>>>> > and try with JAVA_HOME=JDK 1.8 for first time and then with >> > >>>>>>>> jdk.home=... >> > >>>>>>>> > with other JDKs. >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > I remember your mail and the stacktrace with >> > >>>>>>>> commons-lang3-3.5.jar but I >> > >>>>>>>> > could not reproduce identical symptoms on my PC and Jenkins >> > >>>>>>>> lately. >> > >>>>>>>> > Therefore I have opened the master log [1] and I do not see >> that >> > >>>>>>>> stacktrace >> > >>>>>>>> > you had before. >> > >>>>>>>> > I am building locally and on Jenkins almost every day but the >> > >>>>>>>> issue with >> > >>>>>>>> > calling commons-lang3 has not occurred, sorry. >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> See above. Maybe it's "it fail on my machine" or "it works on >> my >> > >>>>>>>> machine" >> > >>>>>>>> BUT I have produced a lot of evidences there is a problem so >> > please >> > >>>>>>>> do not >> > >>>>>>>> ignore that >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > I would like to help you but I do not know what's going on >> your >> > >>>>>>>> PC. Maybe >> > >>>>>>>> > on Sunday we should talk on IRC, I am open for that. >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> > Not everyone can do whatever. Everybody has to open a branch >> > with >> > >>>>>>>> a name of >> > >>>>>>>> > Jira, kindly ask the developers to talk about long term >> concept, >> > >>>>>>>> to make a >> > >>>>>>>> > code-review and wait for a response. We are not always >> available >> > >>>>>>>> and >> > >>>>>>>> > therefore we have to wait for someone else and sometimes we >> have >> > >>>>>>>> to find a >> > >>>>>>>> > person in commit list, go to the developer, track her/him on >> > >>>>>>>> e-mail and >> > >>>>>>>> > IRC. >> > >>>>>>>> > But I would prefer IRC during the day or evening. >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> I don't think irc is a good place for decisions as it's limited >> > >>>>>>>> number of >> > >>>>>>>> participants. >> > >>>>>>>> I see our project as a community and not as a limited number of >> > >>>>>>>> people who >> > >>>>>>>> can be on irc at a certain time. >> > >>>>>>>> Mailing list are the basis of how Apache projects works because >> > you >> > >>>>>>>> have >> > >>>>>>>> history (you can search), async response mode etc... >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> Anyway I asked here fro having master jdk7 minimum with bumping >> > >>>>>>>> version to >> > >>>>>>>> 3.0.0. >> > >>>>>>>> we can have a maintenance branch 2.x >> > >>>>>>>> But let's move forward before jdk7 get deprecated (oh oops it's >> > >>>>>>>> already the >> > >>>>>>>> case). >> > >>>>>>>> Joke apart. I really want a release supporting jdk10 at least >> > >>>>>>>> something not >> > >>>>>>>> failing with CNFE.... >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > [1]: >> > >>>>>>>> > https://builds.apache.org/job/maven-wip/job/maven-surefire/ >> > >>>>>>>> > job/master/20/consoleFull >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > Cheers >> > >>>>>>>> > Tibor >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 12:47 AM, Olivier Lamy < >> > ol...@apache.org> >> > >>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > Please Tibor read the emails and I'm so sorry to repeat >> again >> > >>>>>>>> myself but >> > >>>>>>>> > > it looks you do not listen anyone... >> > >>>>>>>> > > MASTER DOESN'T BUILD!!! >> > >>>>>>>> > > using jdk7 or jdk8 or jdk9 or jdk10 >> > >>>>>>>> > > I send few links with failure and as far as I can >> understand >> > >>>>>>>> from the >> > >>>>>>>> > > thread neither Robert can build it!! >> > >>>>>>>> > > We must first fix that!!! >> > >>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > On 25 February 2018 at 09:17, Tibor Digana < >> > >>>>>>>> tibordig...@apache.org> >> > >>>>>>>> > wrote: >> > >>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> Sorry, I have to repeat myself because of undelivered >> > >>>>>>>> message(s) to >> > >>>>>>>> > Maven >> > >>>>>>>> > >> mailing list. >> > >>>>>>>> > >> >> > >>>>>>>> > >> For clarifying the Surefire goes with Java 6. If you want >> to >> > >>>>>>>> run your >> > >>>>>>>> > >> tests with JDK10 or lower you have to specify the system >> > >>>>>>>> property >> > >>>>>>>> > >> -Djdk.home=/path/to/jdk10 and the you will see that the >> tests >> > >>>>>>>> pass. Go >> > >>>>>>>> > to >> > >>>>>>>> > >> target/surefire-reports and failsafe-reports and >> target/it/** >> > >>>>>>>> and check >> > >>>>>>>> > the >> > >>>>>>>> > >> "java.home" and you will see your /path/to/jdk10. >> > >>>>>>>> > >> >> > >>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > I KNOW HOW IT WORKS AND AGAIN MY POINT IS whenever jdk you >> use >> > >>>>>>>> MASTER >> > >>>>>>>> > > DOESN'T BUILD!! >> > >>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> One more remark I got the Jenkins working [1]. The whole >> > >>>>>>>> problem was >> > >>>>>>>> > with >> > >>>>>>>> > >> the call withMaven() in Jenkinsfile. After I switched >> back to >> > >>>>>>>> withEnv() >> > >>>>>>>> > the >> > >>>>>>>> > >> logs, InterruptedException has gone! >> > >>>>>>>> > >> I reported several improvements that Olivier did not like >> to >> > >>>>>>>> improve but >> > >>>>>>>> > >> I think there is no any significant showstopper for >> 2.21.0. >> > >>>>>>>> > >> >> > >>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > I have no idea what you're talking about? Do you have any >> > email >> > >>>>>>>> threads >> > >>>>>>>> > or >> > >>>>>>>> > > jira where I say that? >> > >>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> I will now talk about the Jiras improvements with Olivier >> in >> > >>>>>>>> GitHub and >> > >>>>>>>> > I >> > >>>>>>>> > >> hope we will make the release soon! >> > >>>>>>>> > >> >> > >>>>>>>> > >> I still do not understand what codeline you run and why >> you >> > >>>>>>>> have >> > >>>>>>>> > problems >> > >>>>>>>> > >> with runtime if I did not have several months and I tested >> > >>>>>>>> with JDK8 >> > >>>>>>>> > u162, >> > >>>>>>>> > >> u132, u121. >> > >>>>>>>> > >> Please post a link to your codeline because I highly doubt >> > >>>>>>>> that you are >> > >>>>>>>> > >> testing the identical code with me! >> > >>>>>>>> > >> >> > >>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > PLEASE READ ALL THE PREVIOUS EMAIL I SENT WITH BUILD >> FAILURE >> > ON >> > >>>>>>>> PUBLIC >> > >>>>>>>> > > JENKINS >> > >>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> >> > >>>>>>>> > >> [1]: https://builds.apache.org/job/ >> > >>>>>>>> maven-wip/job/maven-surefire/j >> > >>>>>>>> > >> ob/SUREFIRE-1489/ >> > >>>>>>>> > >> >> > >>>>>>>> > >> For better clarification 2.21.0 is using modulepath - we >> have >> > >>>>>>>> > integration >> > >>>>>>>> > >> test for Jigsaw modularity and modulepath is activated for >> > JDK >> > >>>>>>>> 9+. >> > >>>>>>>> > >> NPE was fixed in 2.21.0 - check the release notes. >> > >>>>>>>> > >> We are no more calling the problematic method from >> > >>>>>>>> commons-lang3 which >> > >>>>>>>> > >> caused NPE. This does not require any upgrade of >> > commons-lang3 >> > >>>>>>>> till >> > >>>>>>>> > 3.0.0. >> > >>>>>>>> > >> Please follow the build [1]. >> > >>>>>>>> > >> >> > >>>>>>>> > >> Cheers >> > >>>>>>>> > >> Tibor >> > >>>>>>>> > >> >> > >>>>>>>> > >> >> > >>>>>>>> > >> On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 3:22 PM, Robert Scholte < >> > >>>>>>>> rfscho...@apache.org> >> > >>>>>>>> > >> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>> > >> >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> Hi, >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> I've noticed some unsatisfying discussions regarding >> > >>>>>>>> surefire, so let >> > >>>>>>>> > me >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> try to help moving this forward. >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> >> > >>>>>>>> > >> >> > >>>>>>>> > > I'm just not happy about how people do not listen neither >> read >> > >>>>>>>> emails.... >> > >>>>>>>> > > Emails is the primary way of working at Apache because of >> > >>>>>>>> different >> > >>>>>>>> > > timezone etc... >> > >>>>>>>> > > IRC is just a volatile dicussion channel when you >> disconnect >> > >>>>>>>> you cannot >> > >>>>>>>> > > read history, later reply from someone (perso I often >> shutdown >> > >>>>>>>> my laptop) >> > >>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> Here's the situation as I see it: >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> - Surefire 2.20.1 is the latest released version >> > (2017-09-15) >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> - 2.20.1 doesn't use the modulepath yet, that will be >> part >> > of >> > >>>>>>>> the next >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> release. A lot of people are waiting for this even before >> > the >> > >>>>>>>> official >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> release of JDK9. >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> - Surefire 2.x is is still JDK 1.6 compatible, the >> > >>>>>>>> requirement of JDK >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> 1.7 is planned for surefire 3.0.0 >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> >> > >>>>>>>> > >> >> > >>>>>>>> > > I'm fine with that so we can have a branch 2.x with jdk6 >> > >>>>>>>> compatible >> > >>>>>>>> > > And master 3.0.0 with jdk7 requirement. >> > >>>>>>>> > > Does it sound reasonnable? >> > >>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> - 2.20.1 doesn't run on JDK10, it gets an NPE caused by >> > >>>>>>>> commons-lang >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> when trying to get the Java version. The version of >> > >>>>>>>> commons-lang where >> > >>>>>>>> > this >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> is fixed required JDK 1.7 (which clashes with the >> previous >> > >>>>>>>> bullet) >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> - After the next version (2.21), surefire will focus on >> > 3.0.0 >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> - There's no agreement that the current master works with >> > >>>>>>>> JDK10. One of >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> the things I noticed is that you need to run surefire >> with a >> > >>>>>>>> special >> > >>>>>>>> > set of >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> arguments. I haven't been able to build it locally, so I >> > >>>>>>>> cannot judge >> > >>>>>>>> > it. >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> - Surefire is a huge, complex project and Tibor has taken >> > the >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> responsibility for maintaining this project. >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> >> > >>>>>>>> > >> >> > >>>>>>>> > > I do not see such role at Apache. everyone can work on the >> > >>>>>>>> project with >> > >>>>>>>> > > the same right. >> > >>>>>>>> > > There is no BDFL rule and NO one can revert commits from >> > others >> > >>>>>>>> without >> > >>>>>>>> > > discussion. >> > >>>>>>>> > > I guess that's the problem here I keep sending emails I >> have >> > no >> > >>>>>>>> > response!! >> > >>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> What I would like to see is: >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> - What's blocking a release right now? Is it just CI? >> > Knowing >> > >>>>>>>> that CI >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> has changed a lot the last couple of months, did it just >> > >>>>>>>> expose >> > >>>>>>>> > *unknown >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> issues* compared to 2.20.1? >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> - Is the master at its current state already an >> improvement >> > >>>>>>>> compared to >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> 2.20.1? >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> - What would be the estimated release date for surefire. >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> - If this date is too unsure or takes too long, can >> Olivier >> > >>>>>>>> create a >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> branch and do a 21.1-JDK10 release? or beta1? >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> My main issue is : we should work towards a new release, >> > >>>>>>>> because 2.20.1 >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> doesn't work with JDK10 and there's no workaround. >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> IMHO this doesn't have to be an official surefire >> release, >> > we >> > >>>>>>>> can add >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> some special qualifier to at least help those who need to >> > >>>>>>>> work with >> > >>>>>>>> > JDK10. >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> thanks, >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> Robert >> > >>>>>>>> > >>> >> > >>>>>>>> > >> >> > >>>>>>>> > >> >> > >>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > -- >> > >>>>>>>> > > Olivier Lamy >> > >>>>>>>> > > http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy >> > >>>>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> -- >> > >>>>>>>> Olivier Lamy >> > >>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> -- >> > >>>> Olivier Lamy >> > >>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy >> > >>>> -- >> > >>>> Olivier Lamy >> > >>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy >> > >>>> >> > >>> -- >> > > >> > > >> > > -- Enrico Olivelli >> > > >> > >> > -- > Sent from my phone > -- -- Enrico Olivelli
