we can start with naming the future git repos: I suppose adding a table at the 
end of the Git migration Wiki page can give a good view of the result (with 78 
new repos + existing 7 repos + the 6 in migration if nobody objects = 91 
repos)

once we're all convinced of the target, we'll see how to work with infra
and I suppose they already have the right authors list, given the current 
mirrors already published

Regards,

Hervé

Le samedi 7 octobre 2017, 16:05:45 CEST Tibor Digana a écrit :
> Herve,
> 
> I think, first of all, we should write a list with exact names of git
> repositories for which INFRA will crate them in
> git1-us-west.apache.org/repos/asf
> and mirror in github.com/apache
> 
> And then the authors.txt.
> 
> In my case I did not migrate tags and branches which is my problem given in
> my example with previous e-mail.
> 
> On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Tibor Digana <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Herve,
> > I think making the tag as I wanted would not be possible in git.
> > 
> > Let's make it with all 78 projects.
> > In 2016 I migrated my svn project "audit" located in sub-folder behind
> > trunk (trunk/libs/audit) to git which is exactly what we need to do in
> > ASF.
> > 
> > In our case the commands would be 99% the same. The 1% is the source SVN
> > URL and target GitHub URL. That's all. Then if we provide INFRA with bunch
> > of commands like these then they will only execute them with their
> > permissions.
> > I do not think they will give me admin permissions to make it.
> > 
> > git svn clone --no-metadata --authors-file=E:\*authors.txt* http://
> > ***/svn/***/*trunk/libs/audit audit*
> > git config --global user.name "*** ***"
> > git config --global user.email "***@***.***"
> > git remote add origin https://***@github.com/apache/*maven-clean-plugin*
> > .git
> > git push -u origin --all
> > 
> > I observed the *authors.txt* from command
> > *svn log -q*
> > Each person from between first two pipes, e.g.:
> > r1234567 | tibordigana | 2015-10-19 02:20:00
> > 
> > Every developer added e-mail and full name, i.e.:
> > tibordigana = Tibor Digana <[email protected]>
> > etc.
> > 
> > This list of users which should be created in prior to contact INFRA.
> > Not all users are active after years but it would be nice to include them
> > too.
> > This list of users is one thing which cannot be automated!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 2:48 PM, Tibor Digana <[email protected]>
> > 
> > wrote:
> >> In my company I have such situation in SVN. Making a tag from subfolder.
> >> Git always makes the tag from the root, right?
> >> Let's google something...
> >> 
> >> On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Tibor Digana <[email protected]
> >> 
> >> > wrote:
> >>> In my company I have such situation.
> >>> Making a tag from subfolder.
> >>> Git always makes the tag from the root, right?
> >>> Let's google something...
> >>> 
> >>> On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <[email protected]>
> >>> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> thanks for your interest and feedback
> >>>> 
> >>>> Le samedi 7 octobre 2017, 12:00:32 CEST Tibor Digana a écrit :
> >>>> > 78 is too much.
> >>>> 
> >>>> notice that there would also be a question on the git repos naming
> >>>> convention,
> >>>> to avoid flat 78 names but keep at least 3 meaningful groups (plugins,
> >>>> shared,
> >>>> resources: I think this is not absolutely necessary for doxia-tools)
> >>>> 
> >>>> > There is no problem to trigger release over sub-folders and tag it
> >>>> 
> >>>> with
> >>>> 
> >>>> > prefix which is already done in SVN.
> >>>> 
> >>>> is it supported by maven-release plugin with git?
> >>>> 
> >>>> notice I did not know that git was able to tag only a subtree: but I
> >>>> knew I
> >>>> don't yet understand every aspect of git magic... :)
> >>>> 
> >>>> > The CI build can always trigger the root and Jenkinsfile would have
> >>>> > 41
> >>>> > stages for plugins, 26 stages for Shared, etc.
> >>>> > It can be done in Jenkinsfile and so the shell would not throw
> >>>> 
> >>>> exception
> >>>> 
> >>>> > but status would be set instead and goes to the next stage.
> >>>> > I do not know how to detect in GitSCM which sub-folder(s) received
> >>>> 
> >>>> but I
> >>>> 
> >>>> > guess this can be investigated.
> >>>> 
> >>>> +1
> >>>> but I don't know where to look for myself: on that point, I hope to
> >>>> have some
> >>>> help from Jenkinsfile experts
> >>>> and eventually start with svn, to have something before the git
> >>>> migration
> >>>> 
> >>>> > Then it can be a kind of switch-case over committed folders in
> >>>> 
> >>>> Jenkinsfile.
> >>>> 
> >>>> > This means that every time another stage/sub-folder is shown in
> >>>> 
> >>>> Pipeline
> >>>> 
> >>>> > which will be messy in the UI. :(
> >>>> 
> >>>> notice that we can perhaps split the repos in less parts than we have
> >>>> components: on plugins, for example, we already have 4 categories [1]
> >>>> which
> >>>> would avoid 1 repo with 41 plugins, but more something like 6+10+10+15
> >>>> I suppose we could do the same for shared (reporting folder comes to my
> >>>> mind)
> >>>> 
> >>>> The key feasibility issue is the capacity to release a sub-component
> >>>> from git
> >>>> with maven-release-plugin, IMHO
> >>>> (taking apart the git purists idea of 1 lifecycle = 1 git repo)
> >>>> 
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> 
> >>>> Hervé
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> [1] http://maven.apache.org/plugins/
> >>>> 
> >>>> > On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 4:17 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY <[email protected]>
> >>>> 
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> > > There are 6 svn locations without any special complexity that are
> >>>> 
> >>>> waiting
> >>>> 
> >>>> > > for
> >>>> > > a volunteer for git migration for a few years but nobody does
> >>>> 
> >>>> anything
> >>>> 
> >>>> > > about:
> >>>> > > I started 3 days ago to ask for help about it and got pretty no
> >>>> 
> >>>> feedback
> >>>> 
> >>>> > > [1]
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > > then there are the 4 complex svn locations (plugins, shared,
> >>>> 
> >>>> resources,
> >>>> 
> >>>> > > doxia-
> >>>> > > tools) that require much more work: I suppose we can't tell git
> >>>> 
> >>>> migration
> >>>> 
> >>>> > > is
> >>>> > > abandoned, but it will require someone to work on it seriously
> >>>> > > Remember that the key question [2] is: do we transform these 4 svn
> >>>> > > locations
> >>>> > > into 41 +26 + 6 + 5 = 78 independent git repos?
> >>>> > > Yes, I told that Jenkins configuration is one key aspect we need a
> >>>> > > strategy
> >>>> > > about, in parallel with git strategy.
> >>>> 
> >>>> > > then there will be the remaining cases where we need to decide:
> >>>> lower
> >>>> 
> >>>> > > impact,
> >>>> > > lower priority.
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > > Summary: nothing is abandoned, but:
> >>>> > > - simple cases: no volunteer to do the job
> >>>> > > - hard cases: is there a volunteer either to define a strategy or
> >>>> 
> >>>> do some
> >>>> 
> >>>> > > work
> >>>> > > on it?
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > > Regards,
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > > Hervé
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/
> >>>> > > edf3642a7bdd515f0cad421c25589741819446463614bf0515e56dbe@
> >>>> > > %3Cdev.maven.apache.org%3E
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > > [2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Git
> >>>> > > +Migration#GitMigration-Migratinganaggregatortreeintoacollec
> >>>> 
> >>>> tionofgitrepos
> >>>> 
> >>>> > > Le vendredi 6 octobre 2017, 20:35:45 CEST Arnaud Héritier a écrit :
> >>>> > > > But did we completely abandoned the idea of moving everything to
> >>>> 
> >>>> git ?
> >>>> 
> >>>> > > > The CI setup was the main stop for it ?
> >>>> > > > 
> >>>> > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 8:05 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <
> >>>> 
> >>>> [email protected]>
> >>>> 
> >>>> > > wrote:
> >>>> > > > > I was expecting the usual litany
> >>>> > > > > 
> >>>> > > > > what I'm not confident currently with pipeline on Maven core is
> >>>> 
> >>>> that
> >>>> 
> >>>> > > > > we
> >>>> > > > > have
> >>>> > > > > for example the "maven-3.x-jenkinsfile/MNG-6242 - build #1 -
> >>>> 
> >>>> null"
> >>>> 
> >>>> > > > > message,
> >>>> > > > > with this "null" part that makes me wonder if we are using it
> >>>> > > > > as
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > > expected.
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > > > > And for large multi-module svn trunks (the ones we don't
> >>>> 
> >>>> migrate to
> >>>> 
> >>>> > > git:
> >>>> > > > > mainly plugins and shared), is there a solution to rebuild just
> >>>> > > > > changed
> >>>> > > > > modules?
> >>>> > > > > 
> >>>> > > > > ideally, the rebuild when a SNAPSHOT dependency is published
> >>>> 
> >>>> would
> >>>> 
> >>>> > > > > have
> >>>> > > > > been a
> >>>> > > > > plus, but this is sufficiently a rare use that I won't be
> >>>> 
> >>>> extremist
> >>>> 
> >>>> > > > > Then IIUC, this migration job is one additional TODO for me...
> >>>> > > > > 
> >>>> > > > > Regards,
> >>>> > > > > 
> >>>> > > > > Hervé
> >>>> > > > > 
> >>>> > > > > Le vendredi 6 octobre 2017, 17:46:53 CEST Arnaud Héritier a
> >>>> 
> >>>> écrit :
> >>>> > > > > > I agree that we should use pipeline nowdays
> >>>> > > > > > perhaps a shared lib if we want to standardize some stuffs
> >>>> 
> >>>> and a set
> >>>> 
> >>>> > > of
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > > > > > multi-branches jobs (or org folder but it requires GitHub :(
> >>>> > > > > > )
> >>>> > > > > > 
> >>>> > > > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Stephen Connolly <
> >>>> > > > > > 
> >>>> > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> > > > > > > On Fri 6 Oct 2017 at 06:32, Hervé BOUTEMY <
> >>>> 
> >>>> [email protected]>
> >>>> 
> >>>> > > > > wrote:
> >>>> > > > > > > > I just fixed a few failing jobs [1] to have again a
> >>>> > > > > > > > usable
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > > Jenkins.
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > > > > > > > Now I'm facing some issues, I suppose caused by newer
> >>>> 
> >>>> Jenkins
> >>>> 
> >>>> > > > > versions:
> >>>> > > > > > > > - Maven 3.0.5 causes NoSuchMethodError:
> >>>> > > > > > > > o.c.plexus.util.xml.pull.
> >>>> > > > > > > 
> >>>> > > > > > > MXParser
> >>>> > > > > > > 
> >>>> > > > > > > > [2]
> >>>> > > > > > > > - I had to switch to JDK 8 for maven-plugin-tools job,
> >>>> 
> >>>> since JDK
> >>>> 
> >>>> > > > > causes
> >>>> > > > > 
> >>>> > > > > > > > failures (looks like Jenkins uses a hack to inject JDK 7
> >>>> 
> >>>> as a
> >>>> 
> >>>> > > tool
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > > > > while
> >>>> > > > > 
> >>>> > > > > > > > the
> >>>> > > > > > > > build JVM is Java 8)
> >>>> > > > > > > > 
> >>>> > > > > > > > Should we drop Maven 3.0.5 builds and JDK 7?
> >>>> > > > > > > > Notice I didn't check which is the minimum Maven version
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > > required...
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > > > > > > > Or perhaps simply don't use the Jenkins Maven plugin with
> >>>> 
> >>>> this
> >>>> 
> >>>> > > Maven
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > > > > > > 3.0.5
> >>>> > > > > > > 
> >>>> > > > > > > > or
> >>>> > > > > > > > JDK 7 configuration: default build as Jenkins Maven
> >>>> 
> >>>> plugin with
> >>>> 
> >>>> > > JDK
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > > > > 8 +
> >>>> > > > > 
> >>>> > > > > > > > latest
> >>>> > > > > > > > Maven, and other configurations as scripted jobs?
> >>>> > > > > > > 
> >>>> > > > > > > http://javaadventure.blogspot.ie/2013/11/jenkins-maven-job-> 
> >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > 
> >>>> > > > > type-considered-evil.html
> >>>> > > > > 
> >>>> > > > > > > <http://javaadventure.blogspot.ie/2013/11/jenkins-> >
> >>>> > > > > 
> >>>> > > > > maven-job-type-considered-evil.html?m=1>
> >>>> > > > > 
> >>>> > > > > > > We should stop using the evil job type as it’s minimum Java
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > > version is
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > > > > > > dictated by Jenkins’ Java minimum.
> >>>> > > > > > > 
> >>>> > > > > > > > We need to define our common strategy and have a
> >>>> 
> >>>> consistent
> >>>> 
> >>>> > > > > > > > configuration
> >>>> > > > > > > > for
> >>>> > > > > > > > every job understood by everybody
> >>>> > > > > > > 
> >>>> > > > > > > I recommend Jenkinsfile and the `withMaven` wrapper
> >>>> > > > > > > 
> >>>> > > > > > > > Regards,
> >>>> > > > > > > > 
> >>>> > > > > > > > Hervé
> >>>> > > > > > > > 
> >>>> > > > > > > > [1] https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven/
> >>>> > > > > > > > 
> >>>> > > > > > > > [2]
> >>>> > > > > > > > https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven/job/maven->
> >>>> > > > > > > 
> >>>> > > > > > > plugin-tools-jdk-1.7/162/console
> >>>> > > > > > > 
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> >>>> 
> >>>> ------------------------------
> >>>> 
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> >>>> > > > > 
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> >>>> 
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> >>>> > > > > > > 
> >>>> > > > > > > Sent from my phone
> >>>> > > > > 
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> >>>> 
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