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Section 1.3, Pages:
"The pages are store exactly as they appear in the edit window in text format."
(actually this isn't entirely true. I read the code for Page.py and it supports loading xml files too; however the default is plain text, and theres nothing in there resembling xdoc that I could see)
I've written a few wikis in the past and what MoinMoin are doing is far far easier than attempting to alter the edit-view of the page for storage (or, like UseModWiki, just serialize the in-memory page structure to disk). If you stored xdoc, and the xdocs could be edited directly as you describe, you'd need to implement round-tripping from xdoc to wiki markup and back again. Wiki markup isn't particularly expressive, I'd be surprised if this could be done well.
- Baz
Vincent Massol wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: Cocell | Trygve Laugstøl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 June 2003 14:13 To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Maven web site and Wiki
Wasnt the point to have a wiki site and then create the xdocs based on
the
wiki site?
Nope :-) The wiki automatically saves the topics in xdocs format and in CVS!
If the wiki site cant commit the wiki entries as xdoc formatted docs
in
the maven cvs, but can export the entries as xml I think wath I proposed
would
be a rather simple solution. Its just a suggestion anyway, im not
enlightned
with the inner workings of wiki sites.
Oh sure, but it would be much much easier to have the wiki directly save as xdocs (such as what moinmoin does by default).
-Vincent
Trygve
Vincent Massol wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: Cocell | Trygve Laugstøl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 June 2003 13:52 To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Maven web site and Wiki
Hi
Sounds like a really good plan, but perhaps there should be
installed a
normal wiki installation that can deliver xml exports.
Then a nighly cronjob could do this 1. Export the new/updated entries to a xml file 2. Use XSLT to transform the wiki xml to xdoc. 3. Use XSLT to take out the commend field and commit it into cvs
This way all that needs to be done is to write two rather simple xsl tranformation sheets and the existing cvs mails will tell us about
the
updates.
Why would you need to do all that? That is automatically done on the
fly
when you edit topics in the wiki...
Have a look at: http://www.mockobjects.com/wiki/ Here is an example of the generated XML :
http://www.mockobjects.com/wiki/FrontPage?action=format&mimetype=text/xm
l (you might need to do a "view source" with IE).
-Vincent
Trygve
Vincent Massol wrote:
Hi,
Here are some facts: - Our Maven web site contains lots of inaccuracies and would not
suffer
from additional documentation
- Some Maven users would be happy to contribute if we gave them
easy
tools for that.
The idea:
- Transform our web site from a static web site into a Wiki web
site.
- But not any wiki! One that saves topics in XML format. For
example
the
MoinMoin wiki saves topic in xdocs format (stylebook style
unfortunately
but that's not too far from our xdocs format and could probably be easily modified ) - Second step: hook the wiki to CVS so that modifications are saved
in
our Maven CVS, directly in xdocs format. This is possible with
MoinMoin
and probably with others too. - Note: The MoinMoin wiki also has a "comment" field that could be
used
as the CVS commit message. We could force the need to have a
non-blank
text if we wish to make sure there are commit messages. - We get automatically CVS email notifications whenever pages are modified and we can thus easily control the changes made to the
wiki
and
correct when and if needed.
Conclusion: - We keep the advantage of our xdocs - We can still edit xdocs directly should we wish - Anyone can contribute easily to the documentation and we get good
and
up to date Maven documentation.
If we agree, there are things to do: - We need to find a machine where the wiki could run (it could be a machine provided by a Friend Of Maven or an Apache one if there's
one
available) - We need someone to look at MoinMoin (or another wiki) to perform
the
following: - find how to hook it to CVS - find how to change the default style to be the Maven style (stylesheet) - find how to modify the DTD so that the xdocs are in the Maven
xdocs
format - find how to define where xdocs are saved in CVS so that we try
to
---------------------------------------------------------------------match the existing locations of xdocs - We need a Wiki admin
What do you think?
Thanks -Vincent
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