On Fri, Sep 22, 2023, at 12:51, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > On Thu, Sep 21, 2023, at 19:38, Ralph Goers wrote: >> At this point in time I will abstain from voting. As far as I am >> concerned only 1 vote counts - Scott’s. He has steadfastly asked that >> the project not be retired and until he positively says he will no >> longer maintain it I am not willing to override that. > > > Agreed. I don’t think this discussion is already due for a vote. Even > when we consider it dormant, we should consider to fix the problem. > Unlike log4j1, chainsaw was never considered EOL. > > I would like to hear from Scott but also Robert, who did the last commits.
I was just reading that message again, and would like to add something. I actually disagree that only one vote counts in this case. The PMC as a whole is responsible for maintaining a component, fixing security issues etc. If we decide to keep a component, we should be behind this decision. I think we should reopen this vote and discussion in a few weeks again to see, if there actually was any maintenance (no threating here) Kind regards, Christian > Christian > >> I should also note that AFAIK we have never “archived” a dormant >> project. We simply change its status on the web site. That said, a >> read-only repo does make some sense for a dormant project I guess. >> >> Ralph >> >>> On Sep 21, 2023, at 10:00 AM, Volkan Yazıcı <vol...@yazi.ci> wrote: >>> >>> As earlier discussions[1] indicate, Chainsaw has been lacking on >>> maintenance and no PMC member stepped up to perform necessary chores. >>> This is a vote to retire the Chainsaw by means of >>> >>> - Move it to the list of dormant projects[2] >>> - Making it clear in its README and website that the project is not >>> maintained anymore >>> - Archive its repository[3] >>> >>> Please cast your votes on this mailing list. >>> >>> [ ] +1, retire the project >>> [ ] -1, don't retire, because... >>> >>> This vote is open for 72 hours and will pass unless getting a net >>> negative vote count. All votes are welcome and we encourage everyone, >>> but only the Logging Services PMC votes are officially counted. At >>> least 3 +1 votes and more positive than negative votes are required. >>> >>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/fsykp5hxr9z0c2h85snnhnj2pq553t6q >>> [2] https://logging.apache.org/dormant.html >>> [3] https://github.com/apache/chainsaw
