I've finished removing log4j1 from Chainsaw.  If anybody would like to take
a look, it is in a PR here:
https://github.com/apache/logging-chainsaw/pull/11

The next steps probably are:
* Make sure dependencies are up to date
* Create a better way of documenting how receivers work other than just
throwing javadoc at the user
* Create a full tutorial and documentation for chainsaw, since the
documentation is pretty non-existent now
* Integrate with the Advertisers that log4j2 has so you can easily connect
to an application using log4j2
* Look at JDeploy that Matt linked to and determine if that would be a good
way to distribute chainsaw

-Robert Middleton

On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 2:02 PM Robert Middleton <rmiddle...@apache.org>
wrote:

> Thanks for the input.  In that case I will certainly make sure that we
> do keep the VFSLogFilePatternReceiver.
>
> One thing that would be helpful if you have time Scott would be a
> manual on how to use Chainsaw and the features that it has.  I
> understand it enough now, but for people first trying to use it there
> isn't really any good documentation.
>
> -Robert Middleton
>
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 1:17 AM Scott Deboy <scott.de...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Looks great!
> >
> > It's a lot of work for sure - lots more to do to fully remove log4j1 -
> > custom level support (java.util.logging and Android for example),
> > support for UI-based interactions for some receivers(activateOptions),
> > and the loggerRepository extension pieces.
> >
> > I definitely want to see VFSLogFilePatternReceiver preserved of course
> > - it's turned out to be a very useful Receiver (parse mostly-arbitrary
> > log formats, even remote/ssh).
> >
> > Happy to help I just never have much time.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/16/22, Robert Middleton <rmiddle...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > I've been working on this for a little bit now, and I do have
> > > something that mostly seems to work.  This has been made somewhat more
> > > difficult by the very tight coupling that Chainsaw has with log4j1 and
> > > its plugin framework.  At this point, I've done the following:
> > >
> > > * Remove dependency on log4j1-extras
> > > * Add in log4j2 dependencies for logging
> > > * Create a generic Chainsaw log event that is used to pass log events
> > > around internally
> > > * Rework the receivers framework to use ServiceLoader instead of some
> > > home-grown system
> > >
> > > If people are willing to take a look at what I've done so far, the
> > > (very rough still) branch is here:
> > > https://github.com/rm5248/logging-chainsaw/tree/remove-log4j1
> > >
> > > There are still a number of bugs in it still, since there's  a fair
> > > amount of invasive surgery.  If you want to test, you'll need to do
> > > the following:
> > > 1. Remove your ~/.chainsaw directory(this may or may not be needed; it
> > > doesn't seem to like to load old settings at the moment)
> > > 2. Start chainsaw
> > > 3. Open the 'receivers' panel(icon that looks like a satellite dish)
> > > 4. Create  a new JSON receiver.  There's only one option, so you can
> click
> > > 'ok'
> > > 5. Run log4j2 with a configuration file similar to the following:
> > >
> > > ?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
> > > <Configuration status="WARN">
> > >   <Appenders>
> > >     <Console name="Console" target="SYSTEM_OUT">
> > >       <PatternLayout pattern="LOG4J2 %d{HH:mm:ss.SSS} [%t] %-5level
> > > %logger{36} - %msg%n"/>
> > >     </Console>
> > >     <Socket name="socket" host="localhost" port="4449">
> > >       <JsonTemplateLayout></JsonTemplateLayout>
> > >     </Socket>
> > >   </Appenders>
> > >   <Loggers>
> > >     <Root level="trace">
> > >       <AppenderRef ref="Console"/>
> > >       <AppenderRef ref="socket"/>
> > >     </Root>
> > >   </Loggers>
> > > </Configuration>
> > >
> > > You should then see log messages showing up in a new tab.
> > >
> > > -Robert Middleton
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 6:32 AM Volkan Yazıcı <vol...@yazi.ci> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> +1 for implementation-agnostic custom DTO tailored for Chainsaw.
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 9:31 PM Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I agree on the generic approach. While there’s a LogEvent interface
> in
> > >> > log4j2, it would probably make sense for Chainsaw to define its own
> > >> > DTOs
> > >> > and such.
> > >> > --
> > >> > Matt Sicker
> > >> >
> > >> > > On Dec 26, 2021, at 15:50, Ralph Goers <
> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Scott has been sort of maintaining Chainsaw on his own for years.
> I
> > >> > > am
> > >> > sure he would love new energy in the project.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I think isolating it from any logging framework implementation
> would
> > >> > > be
> > >> > a good thing.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Ralph
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> On Dec 26, 2021, at 2:13 PM, Robert Middleton
> > >> > >> <rmiddle...@apache.org>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> I've been looking into Chainsaw to remove Log4j1, since that is
> > >> > >> rather
> > >> > >> obsolete at this point.  Unfortunately, Chainsaw is closely tied
> to
> > >> > >> Log4j1, as it seems that what happens is when it receives events
> > >> > >> from
> > >> > >> a source, it sends the messages to a custom LoggerRepository
> with a
> > >> > >> custom appender that will then show the log messages.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> There are also a handful of classes from the log4j1 extras
> package
> > >> > >> that are used as well, such as Rule.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> It seems to me that the proper way to do this then is to:
> > >> > >> * Copy any of the log4j1 extras classes we need into Chainsaw
> > >> > >> * Define an internal representation of log messages so that we
> don't
> > >> > >> depend on the log4j1 LoggingEvent class(perhaps a modified
> version
> > >> > >> of
> > >> > >> the log4j1 LoggingEvent)
> > >> > >> * Refactor the code so that when a log event comes in, we simply
> > >> > >> push
> > >> > >> it to whatever tab we want to see it on, instead of indirectly
> via
> > >> > >> log4j1.
> > >> > >> * Create a custom Appender for log4j2 so that we can still see
> > >> > >> internal Chainsaw messages within Chainsaw, and convert internal
> log
> > >> > >> messages to log4j2.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Thoughts?
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> -Robert Middleton
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >
>

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