>All new ASF projects go through the incubator. Sub-projects don’t have to
but when an entirely new community is being

I'm a member of PMC Calcite and JMeter, however, I have not submitted
projects to the incubator yet.

> Once graduated the podling
PMC members would become part of the Logging Services PMC.

Does that mean the current members of Logging Services PMC could veto code
changes in the "new" log4j1?
That sounds strange, and it defeats the reason to re-establish the new set
of PMC members for log4j 1.x

Vladimir

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