If we are going to deprecate them we need to announce that in the next release. 
 I know JSONLayout is being used because we have people complain about it. If 
we do that we should have at least 6 months before 3.0 is released and 2.x and 
3.0 are going to both be active for a while.


Ralph

> On Dec 30, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Volkan Yazıcı <volkan.yaz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> My motivation for dropping these modules are not merely due to the new
> JsonTemplateLayout, though rather reducing the maintenance burden. I
> "hypothesise" they are not used. For one, I cannot imagine a single use
> case for YAML layout. Second, AbstractJacksonLayout renders stack traces in
> a nested fashion — i.e., nested objects for JsonLayout, nested XML elements
> for XmlLayout. Such arbitrarily nested structures are difficult to interact
> with and no storage engine that I know of is able to index them
> sufficiently. Hence, given the way stack traces are rendered, I am pretty
> confident that nobody is looking at them.
> 
> If there is anybody out there using JsonLayout, I presume they can easily
> migrate to JsonTemplateLayout without breaking a sweat. If we receive
> complaints regarding XML and YAML layouts, we can re-introduce them easily.
> 3.0.0 release is a good opportunity to deprecate these modules. Otherwise
> we will need to maintain them for another ~5 years.
> 
> @Gary, is it possible for you to figure out who was using XmlLayout?
> 
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 4:38 AM Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Volkan, I am fine with deleting those modules however that would require
>> that you make sure that you replace the existing Layouts with ones that use
>> JsonTemplateLayout templates, take the same configuration parameters and
>> produce the same results.
>> 
>> In other words, when people move from 2.x to 3.x we want to minimize the
>> changes they have to make to their applications. All existing
>> configurations should continue to work. Custom Plugins should require
>> recompilation but nothing more. Hopefully that would cover 95% of our users.
>> 
>> Ralph
>> 
>>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 2:52 PM, Volkan Yazıcı <volkan.yaz...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I propose deleting all the following 4 modules from master:
>>> 
>>> log4j-layout-jackson
>>> log4j-layout-jackson-json
>>> log4j-layout-jackson-xml
>>> log4j-layout-jackson-yaml
>>> 
>>> The most (only?) used one, JsonLayout, is, IMHO, superseded by
>>> JsonTemplateLayout. The rest, I believe, is not even used. If we happen
>> to
>>> receive requests, we can consider adding them again. Thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Kind regards.
>>> 
>>> *P.S.* No, I did not forget about the report on Online Drinks #1. I will
>> do
>>> that sometime this week.
>> 
>> 
>> 


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