Using Kotlin could also attract Android developers who were otherwise stuck using Java 6 for years.
As mentioned in an earlier reply, this framework could be useful for Kotlin/JavaFX: <https://github.com/edvin/tornadofx> On 10 November 2017 at 22:12, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote: > Now that I think of it, all else being equal, the combination of Kotlin > and JavaFX may be attractive to get other new developers interested and > grow the community... > > (Shameless plug) Every java main() method deserves http://picocli.info > > > On Nov 11, 2017, at 10:58, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Considering it takes about 2-3 months of daily use of Scala to get > > comfortable, perhaps Kotlin would be a better choice. It's a simpler > > language and is supposed to be easy for Java developers to pick up. > > > >> On 10 November 2017 at 19:43, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> I don’t know either language but I’d be more interested in learning > Kotlin > >> than learning Scala. > >> > >> OTOH I’m not sure how much time I’ll be able to contribute to Chainsaw > so > >> not sure how much that should count for. > >> > >> (Shameless plug) Every java main() method deserves http://picocli.info > >> > >>> On Nov 11, 2017, at 10:16, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> That's what I hear. I don't know Kotlin, but I'd certainly be > interested > >> in > >>> learning! (particularly so I can write Gradle builds in a statically > >> typed > >>> language) > >>> > >>>> On 10 November 2017 at 19:10, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I think Kotlin would be more approachable than Scala... thoughts? > >>>> > >>>> Gary > >>>> > >>>>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 3:26 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> On 10 November 2017 at 16:17, Robert Middleton <osfan6...@gmail.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> What would the advantage be of using Scala vs just normal Java? > >>>>>> Mostly from a curiosity standpoint; I've never done Scala so I don't > >>>>>> know it works. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> The main advantage I can see is that most of the developers > interested > >> in > >>>>> working on v3 all prefer to work in Scala. I could go on and on about > >>>> Scala > >>>>> over Java, but really, my comparison would all come down to > functional > >>>>> programming over object oriented programming. When it comes to shared > >>>>> libraries like Log4j, I find Java far more appropriate and work in > that > >>>>> space. In a GUI application where there is no real public API? I'd > >> rather > >>>>> work in Scala. Kotlin was another option, but it seems like none of > us > >>>>> really have experience there. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Did you actually have trouble building? I'm pretty sure that when I > >>>>>> built it a few months ago I simply opened up the project in Netbeans > >>>>>> and it built immediately as a maven project(although looking at the > >>>>>> POM it does look like it uses ant on the backend for some reason). > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Building the project is simple enough. I had issues with: > >>>>> > >>>>> 1. Running mvn clean install does not work by default unless you run > >> "mvn > >>>>> site:site" before running "mvn install". > >>>>> 2. Doesn't build in Java 9. > >>>>> 3. The maven-release-plugin is not configured at all, so I had to do > >> all > >>>>> release steps by hand instead. > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> > -- Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
