Why don't we focus on making the build faster instead of this module & repo 
break-up? 

We know this breakup is adding all kinds of complexity but we are only *hoping* 
(not sure) that it will make the build faster. 

The way I've heard Ralph and Matt describe it, the build currently requires the 
most time consuming part (running the tests) to be repeated three times! 
Wouldn't that be the first thing to look at?

Is this a Maven issue? Can it be fixed? Are we open to considering alternatives 
like Gradle?

I'm concerned we're focusing on the wrong problem. We can break up the modules 
later for the right reasons (dependencies etc). 

Remko 



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> On May 5, 2017, at 1:58, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> 
> Because the build takes forever.
> 
> Ralph
> 
>> On May 4, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I am not sure it is worth the effort to keep things in different repos at
>> this point.
>> 
>> I can see a point in keeping the Scala stuff in its own repo since it needs
>> Java 8 and scala compiler for building. The same goes for log4j-kotlin and
>> any other language bindings we might want to do.
>> 
>> But for logging-log4j-tools, why? It has no other build requirements than
>> the main repo.
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 8:08 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I think we should really get the other git repos released before we make
>>> a
>>>> 2.9 release. The thing holding that back, in my opinion, is figuring out
>>>> how to manage the website and documentation for all these separate
>>> modules
>>>> that aren't even in the same Maven project anymore.
>>> 
>>> Which makes it harder to work with... :-(
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 4 May 2017 at 09:44, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I have extracted the SocketServer stuff from log4j-core to new
>>>> log4j-server
>>>>> module:
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-1851
>>>>> 
>>>>> That module is in the new logging-log4j-tools repo. However, that repo
>>> is
>>>>> not ready for making a release. Is anyone going to do that before the
>>> 2.9
>>>>> release, or should we move the log4j-server module back to the main
>>> repo
>>>>> for the time being?
>>>>> 
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