Hi all,

I am also busy with different projects at the moment, as such I am more
than happy if ai can help somehow, e.g. reviewing code in parts that I
know, but I cannot allocate much bandwidth to it.

Thanks,
Marco

Il lun 24 ott 2022, 22:07 larry mccay <[email protected]> ha scritto:

> Personally, I would welcome it.
> Any notes of guidance and support as we ramp up the team and make the first
> few releases would be invaluable.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 3:49 PM Alex Bozarth <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I would love to stay on as a PPMC, but if my lack of availability
> concerns
> > the new PPMC then I'm willing to be emeritus.
> >
> >
> > Alex Bozarth
> > Jupyter Architect, IBM CODAIT
> > GitHub: ajbozarth
> >
> > On 10/24/22, 2:46 PM, "larry mccay" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >     Oh, very good, Alex!
> >     Be sure to let us know if you want to remain on the project in any
> > capacity.
> >
> >
> >     On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 3:18 PM Alex Bozarth <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >     > As the only Livy PPMC still responding to the Mentors on the
> private
> > list,
> >     > I have updated the Livy Podling report for November with the status
> > of the
> >     > project and a request to the IPMC to review this proposal since
> > there are
> >     > not enough active Livy PPMC members to reach a quorum to pass the
> > proposal.
> >     >
> >     > As a current Livy PPMC I strongly support this proposal for
> > revitalization
> >     > as I do not have enough bandwidth to dedicate to Livy.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > Alex Bozarth
> >     > Jupyter Architect, IBM CODAIT
> >     > GitHub: ajbozarth
> >     >
> >     > On 10/24/22, 1:41 PM, "larry mccay" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >     >
> >     >     Gentle reminder that we need to determine next steps here.
> >     >     We have an updated proposal on this thread.
> >     >     Do we need a VOTE or can we move forward directly to adjusting
> > the
> >     > members,
> >     >     etc?
> >     >
> >     >     Thanks!
> >     >
> >     >     --larry
> >     >
> >     >     On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 3:26 PM larry mccay <[email protected]
> >
> > wrote:
> >     >
> >     >     > @Justin Mclean <[email protected]> - any insights on next
> > steps
> >     > here?
> >     >     >
> >     >     >
> >     >     > On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 5:44 PM larry mccay <
> [email protected]
> > >
> >     > wrote:
> >     >     >
> >     >     >> Very good, here is the latest revision with updated Mentors.
> >     >     >> Sunil and I have been added to the IPMC as well.
> >     >     >> Welcome Madhawa and thanks for stepping up as a Mentor for
> > Livy!
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >> Abstract
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >> Livy is a web service that exposes a REST interface for
> > managing
> >     > long
> >     >     >> running Apache Spark contexts in your cluster. With Livy,
> new
> >     > applications
> >     >     >> can be built on top of Apache Spark that require fine
> grained
> >     > interaction
> >     >     >> with many Spark contexts [1].
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >> While this project has been well regarded and used in many
> > contexts
> >     > as
> >     >     >> the defacto standard API to Spark environments, it has been
> >     > incubating for
> >     >     >> over 5 years without graduation to a TLP and it has become
> >     > difficult to
> >     >     >> impossible for fixes and improvements to be contributed as
> the
> >     > current
> >     >     >> community seems to have moved on.
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >> There has been discussion regarding retirement of this
> > podling where
> >     >     >> there seems to be some increasing interest in joining and
> > reviving
> >     > the
> >     >     >> community [2].
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >> The intent of this proposal is to avoid retiring a well
> > regarded,
> >     >     >> actively used and rather mature project by reviving the PPMC
> > and
> >     > community
> >     >     >> with new folks that have a vested interest in the project
> and
> >     > health of the
> >     >     >> community.
> >     >     >> Proposal
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >> We propose to revive the PPMC with a set of contributors and
> >     > maintainers
> >     >     >> as mentors, PPMC members and committers.
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >> The retirement DISCUSS thread [2] has shown a growing
> > interest in
> >     >     >> providing new committers and bringing improvements and fixes
> > from
> >     >     >> organization’s internally maintained forks back to a revived
> >     > community.
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >> General Approach to Revival:
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>    -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>    Add new Mentors
> >     >     >>    -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>       Larry McCay, [email protected] , Cloudera
> >     >     >>       -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>       Sunil Govindan, [email protected], Cloudera
> >     >     >>       -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>       Jean-Baptiste Onofré, [email protected], Talend
> >     >     >>       -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>       Madhawa Gunasekara, [email protected], Independent
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>    -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>    Add new Committers/PPMC
> >     >     >>    -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>       Larry McCay, [email protected], Cloudera
> >     >     >>       -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>       Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli, [email protected],
> Cloudera
> >     >     >>       -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>       Imran Rashid - [email protected], Cloudera
> >     >     >>       -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>       Gyorgy Gal, ggal ,[email protected], Cloudera
> >     >     >>       -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>       Wing Yew Poon, [email protected], Cloudera
> >     >     >>       -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>       Xilang Yan, [email protected], Shopee
> >     >     >>       -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>       Jianzhen Wu, [email protected], Shopee
> >     >     >>       -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>       Nagella Jagadeewara Rao, [email protected], Visa
> >     >     >>       -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>       Pralab Kumar, [email protected], Visa
> >     >     >>       -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>       Prasad Shrikant, [email protected], Visa
> >     >     >>       -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>       Brahma Reddy Battula, [email protected], Visa
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>    -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>    Invite existing PPMC members to opt-in or otherwise go
> > emeritus
> >     >     >>    -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>       Jean-Baptiste Onofré, [email protected], Talend
> > (opted-in
> >     > via
> >     >     >>       Retirement DISCUSS thread [2])
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>    -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>    Invite existing Committers to opt-out or otherwise
> continue
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>    -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>    Establish Roadmap via follow up DISCUSS thread
> >     >     >>    -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>       Known Improvements from Forks which will need
> proposals
> > and
> >     >     >>       discussion:
> >     >     >>       -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>          Adding HA for Livy
> >     >     >>          -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>          Updating security capabilities (eg. kerberos for
> > jdbc,
> >     > fixing
> >     >     >>          bugs in encryption)
> >     >     >>          -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>          Expanding the support for kubernetes
> >     >     >>          -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>          Responding to CVEs in dependencies (eg. log4j,
> > thrift)
> >     >     >>          -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>          Livy rest cluster - IS THIS SAME AS HA for Livy
> > ABOVE?
> >     >     >>          -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>          Support multi Spark versions
> >     >     >>          -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>          Implemented a metrics system for Livy
> >     >     >>          -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>          Support customize batch/interactive session
> > lifecycle event
> >     >     >>          handler, default log event with log4j, very helpful
> > for
> >     > troubleshooting
> >     >     >>          -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>          Optimize log to track which session id the log
> > message came
> >     >     >>          from, also very helpful for troubleshooting
> >     >     >>          -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>          Support customize Spark config optimization rules,
> > can be
> >     > used
> >     >     >>          to optimize config for users’ job
> >     >     >>          -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>          A set of command line tool which can be used to
> > replace
> >     > Spark’s
> >     >     >>          spark-submit, pyspark, spark-sql but actually
> submit
> >     > application in Livy
> >     >     >>          -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>          We are planning to implement a JDBC state store,
> and
> > allow
> >     >     >>          multi Livy Thrift sessions to share one backend
> Spark
> >     > application in the
> >     >     >>          next few months.
> >     >     >>          -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>       These items and others that are brought to community
> > may need
> >     >     >>       consolidation or multiple configurable options and
> will
> > need
> >     > to be part of
> >     >     >>       the discussion
> >     >     >>       -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>          One-pager Livy Improvement Proposals (LIP) may make
> > sense
> >     > to
> >     >     >>          drive these discussions and convergence
> >     >     >>          -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>          Feature Branch Strategy for large changes
> >     >     >>          -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>             Large features are hard to review we will need
> to
> >     > define a
> >     >     >>             strategy
> >     >     >>             -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>       Determine the Improvements to be delivered across
> first
> > 3
> >     > Releases
> >     >     >>       with Target Release Dates
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>    -
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>    Ensure CVE and Dependency management hygiene is in place
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >> The above approach will usher the community back to an
> active
> >     > status with
> >     >     >> a Roadmap of 3 or more release plans and security hygiene in
> > place.
> >     >     >> Development Practices
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >> The Livy project follows a review before commit philosophy.
> > Every
> >     > commit
> >     >     >> automatically runs through the unit tests and generates
> > coverage
> >     > reports
> >     >     >> presented as a pull request comment. Our experience with
> this
> >     > process leads
> >     >     >> us to believe that it helps ease new contributors into the
> > project.
> >     > They
> >     >     >> get feedback quickly on common mistakes, lowering the burden
> > on
> >     > reviewers.
> >     >     >> Those same reviewers get to lead by example, showing the new
> >     > contributors
> >     >     >> that we value feedback within our community even when
> changes
> > are
> >     > done by
> >     >     >> more experienced folks. Taken from the original Apache Livy
> >     > Proposal [1],
> >     >     >> this should continue to be true. As mentioned, Livy is a
> > mature
> >     > project and
> >     >     >> as such RTC is the most appropriate for continued quality
> and
> >     > awareness.
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>    1.
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>    Original Apache Livy Proposal
> >     >     >>
> >     > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/incubator/LivyProposal
> >     >     >>    2.
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>    Retirement DISCUSS thread
> >     >     >>
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/gcstsrhbp91c5mm55htqn1l3djv8m7o0
> >     >
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >> On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 5:05 PM Madhawa Gunasekara <
> >     > [email protected]>
> >     >     >> wrote:
> >     >     >>
> >     >     >>> Hi Larry,
> >     >     >>>
> >     >     >>> I'm an  IPMC Member. madhawa30 at gmail dot com is my
> > preferred
> >     > email
> >     >     >>> address.
> >     >     >>> apache id:  madhawa
> >     >     >>>
> >     >     >>> Thanks,
> >     >     >>> Madhawa
> >     >     >>>
> >     >     >>>
> >     >     >>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 10:05 PM larry mccay <
> > [email protected]>
> >     > wrote:
> >     >     >>>
> >     >     >>> > Hi Madhawa -
> >     >     >>> >
> >     >     >>> > That's awesome!
> >     >     >>> > Are you already a member of IPMC?
> >     >     >>> > If not, are you an ASF member?
> >     >     >>> > If you are an ASF member you can request that you be
> added
> > as an
> >     > IPMC
> >     >     >>> > member.
> >     >     >>> >
> >     >     >>> > Can you provide your company affiliation for the proposal
> > and
> >     > preferred
> >     >     >>> > email?
> >     >     >>> >
> >     >     >>> > thanks!
> >     >     >>> >
> >     >     >>> > --larry
> >     >     >>> >
> >     >     >>> > On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 2:18 PM Madhawa Gunasekara <
> >     >     >>> [email protected]>
> >     >     >>> > wrote:
> >     >     >>> >
> >     >     >>> > > Hi Larry,
> >     >     >>> > >
> >     >     >>> > > I'm interested in working with Livy and would like to
> > join as a
> >     >     >>> Mentor.
> >     >     >>> > >
> >     >     >>> > > Thanks,
> >     >     >>> > > Madhawa
> >     >     >>> > >
> >     >     >>> > >
> >     >     >>> > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 6:57 PM larry mccay <
> > [email protected]
> >     > >
> >     >     >>> wrote:
> >     >     >>> > >
> >     >     >>> > > > Sorry, I missed commenting on this:
> >     >     >>> > > >
> >     >     >>> > > > "There is also no concept as an emeritus PPMC member
> > at the
> >     > ASF."
> >     >     >>> > > >
> >     >     >>> > > > I assume that we can remove PPMC members that do not
> > opt-in
> >     >     >>> explicitly
> >     >     >>> > at
> >     >     >>> > > > this point.
> >     >     >>> > > > They will have every opportunity to rejoin.
> >     >     >>> > > >
> >     >     >>> > > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 12:48 PM larry mccay <
> >     > [email protected]>
> >     >     >>> > wrote:
> >     >     >>> > > >
> >     >     >>> > > > > I will ask in a separate thread, @Justin Mclean <
> >     >     >>> [email protected]
> >     >     >>> > >
> >     >     >>> > > -
> >     >     >>> > > > > thanks.
> >     >     >>> > > > > Adding JB adds another company and we are certainly
> > open to
> >     >     >>> anyone
> >     >     >>> > else
> >     >     >>> > > > > that would like to join as a mentor.
> >     >     >>> > > > > At the end of the day, the mentors are for
> > instilling the
> >     > Apache
> >     >     >>> Way
> >     >     >>> > > > > knowledge and steering toward graduation.
> >     >     >>> > > > > I feel that this diversity, while nice to have, is
> > less
> >     > important
> >     >     >>> > than
> >     >     >>> > > > > that of the PPMC and committers for the long term
> > health
> >     > of the
> >     >     >>> > > > community.
> >     >     >>> > > > >
> >     >     >>> > > > > We need to push this podling to graduation as
> > quickly as
> >     > possible
> >     >     >>> > since
> >     >     >>> > > > it
> >     >     >>> > > > > is rather mature and needs to get to the next
> level.
> >     >     >>> > > > >
> >     >     >>> > > > > Again, any potential Mentors that would like to
> join
> > are
> >     > more
> >     >     >>> than
> >     >     >>> > > > welcome.
> >     >     >>> > > > >
> >     >     >>> > > > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 12:38 PM Justin Mclean <
> >     >     >>> > > [email protected]
> >     >     >>> > > > >
> >     >     >>> > > > > wrote:
> >     >     >>> > > > >
> >     >     >>> > > > >> Hi,
> >     >     >>> > > > >>
> >     >     >>> > > > >> I’m sorry, but Imran Rashid can’t be a mentor for
> > the
> >     > project as
> >     >     >>> > they
> >     >     >>> > > > are
> >     >     >>> > > > >> not an IPMC member. Currently, both Sunil and
> Larry
> > (as
> >     > they
> >     >     >>> are ASF
> >     >     >>> > > > >> members) need to ask to join the IPMC and NOTICE
> > sent to
> >     > the ASF
> >     >     >>> > > board.
> >     >     >>> > > > I
> >     >     >>> > > > >> would also prefer that mentors come from different
> >     > companies.
> >     >     >>> > > > >>
> >     >     >>> > > > >> There is also no concept as an emeritus PPMC
> member
> > at
> >     > the ASF.
> >     >     >>> > > > >>
> >     >     >>> > > > >> Kind Regards,
> >     >     >>> > > > >> Justin
> >     >     >>> > > > >>
> >     >     >>> > > > >>
> >     >     >>> > > > >>
> >     >     >>> >
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