Hi Christofer,

thank you for the info. We will try to follow based on that.

Best regards,
Tibor

On Tue, Feb 10, 2026 at 10:42 AM Christofer Dutz <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Well … if you made all initial committers PPMC members, then these should
> all be subscribed to that list.
> Generally if someone’s not on the PPMC, that person should generally not
> be subscribed to that list
> (however PPMCs and PMCs for TLPs are allowed to decide on who is
> subscribed)
>
> I’d also like to point out, that at Apache all people with „Member“ status
> are entitled to be subscribed to almost any email list they want to.
> You can see who’s a member in whimsy and on this page
> https://people.apache.org/committer-index.html (Here Members are printed
> in bold font)
>
> Chris
>
>
> Von: Tibor Zimányi <[email protected]>
> Datum: Montag, 9. Februar 2026 um 16:07
> An: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Betreff: Re: AW: Can't access [email protected] archive
>
> I agree, we need a cleanup. Could someone from our incubation mentors help
> to see if that is possible, please?
>
> Best regards,
> Tibor
>
> Dňa po 9. 2. 2026, 16:02 Toni Rikkola <[email protected]> napísal(a):
>
> > I remember hearing this too from few sources. Then we checked and 10
> > names were on the list.
> >
> > But say we all were PPMC then we would have a huge amount of people not
> > active on the project, but able to veto and vote. Better to have a
> > shorter list.
> >
> > Toni
> >
> > On 09/02/2026 16.56, Tibor Zimányi wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > when we moved to Apache, as far as I remember, we were told that even
> if
> > we
> > > voted for PPMC members back then, all commiters should be PPMC
> members. I
> > > guess that is why many people are in this list. Please correct me if I
> am
> > > wrong. My memory may not serve me well.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Tibor
> > >
> > >
> > > Dňa po 9. 2. 2026, 15:53 Toni Rikkola <[email protected]> napísal(a):
> > >
> > >> Maybe my wording was not the best (again).
> > >>
> > >> We were invited in, but at the moment I do not think the community
> > >> understood the meaning of the list. So right non-PPMC could be kicked.
> > >>
> > >> Toni
> > >>
> > >> On 09/02/2026 16.02, Christofer Dutz wrote:
> > >>> Well … if that’s the case, I guess the PPMC should probably clean up.
> > >>>
> > >>> Because normally we say: If the PPMC entrusts you to be on that list,
> > >> you generally should also be officially invited to join the PPMC.
> > >>> The PPMC can decide to invite people, but also can remove subscribers
> > to
> > >> that list, ist someone „snuck in“.
> > >>> Chris
> > >>>
> > >>> Von: Toni Rikkola <[email protected]>
> > >>> Datum: Montag, 9. Februar 2026 um 12:17
> > >>> An: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> > >>> Betreff: Re: Can't access [email protected] archive
> > >>>
> > >>> I believe this is since private should only be for PPMC, but somehow
> > >>> many of us have sneaked in.
> > >>>
> > >>> I am both on that list and can not see the archives. I asked a PPMC
> if
> > >>> they can see the archives and they can.
> > >>>
> > >>> Toni
> > >>>
> > >>> On 06/02/2026 1.13, Ricardo Zanini wrote:
> > >>>> Hi! I don't have access to the private list, but I do have a
> > >> subscription. I can see the list in the "unsubscribe" options, and I
> do
> > >> receive emails from it. Can you help?
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