Hi Gabriele,
Happy to see we agree.
Thanks.

On Tue, Jan 7, 2025 at 5:40 PM Gabriele Cardosi <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I see the point of including the kogito-examples in the release, but I
> think it would be better to not put them in the tools repo:
>
> 1. java code under the tools repository ended up on being managed by pnpm,
> and that surely would be an issue for all the people that have no need nor
> interest in spending time to set up their machine for such stack
> 2. more in general terms, the examples are still not ASF compliant AFAIK,
> or, at least, they are not reproducible - and that's the reason why they
> have been excluded initially
> 3. I think that putting everything in one single repo is more sort-of
> anti-pattern, from source-code management point, that a real improvement:
> the bigger and "mixed" a repo is, the harder the work for IDE to even open
> it (and for developer to work on it)
>
> So, back to topic, I think we should
> 1. fix or double check their "compliance" with ASF requirements
> 2. add them as last "ring" of our CI "chain"
>
> @Francisco
> Regarding mono-repo, I hope we'll focus more on the real problems that make
> that "mono-repo" an apparent solution (while it would be just the final
> sign of inability to manage our code-base properly, IMO).
> About "but I have the feeling that there is a majority in favour of that":
> TBH I do not think it is really so
>
> M2C
>
>
>
> Il giorno mar 7 gen 2025 alle ore 17:21 Jason Porter
> <[email protected]> ha scritto:
>
> > Easier in the sense that there’s only one place to look for examples
> > (maybe docs too?), the actual source, and to understand the project. Also
> > easier for them to eventually become contributors. I’ll admit those
> reasons
> > are minor however.
> >
> > --
> > Jason Porter
> > Software Engineer
> > He/Him/His
> >
> > IBM
> >
> >
> > From: Francisco Javier Tirado Sarti <[email protected]>
> > Date: Tuesday, January 7, 2025 at 04:52
> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [DISCUSS] Missing kogito-examples update for the
> > 10.0.0 release!
> > Hi,
> > I can see why it is easier, from a technical point of view, since some
> > examples rely on tooling, to move all examples to tooling repo.
> > However, I hardly see why this makes users' experience better.
> > Let me elaborate, With examples repo, we currently have a place where
> users
> > can browse all examples starting from the repo root.
> > With tooling repo, I guess they will start browsing under examples
> > directory?
> > If we are going for technical simplicity, I guess it is probably time to
> be
> > coherent and move all KIE content under the same repo (I'm not for it,
> but
> > I have the feeling that there is a majority in favour of that, so
> probably
> > time to vote?).
> > Which I feel is really awkward is to have different strategies under the
> > same label (some content in some separate repos and gradually moving
> > everything to a repo named "tools" which is not really just "tools"
> > anymore)
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 5:26 PM Jason Porter <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I know it makes for a larger repo, but I’m all for fewer repositories,
> > and
> > > an easier setup for not only contributors, but all users.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jason Porter
> > > Software Engineer
> > > He/Him/His
> > >
> > > IBM
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Alex Porcelli <[email protected]>
> > > Date: Monday, January 6, 2025 at 03:01
> > > To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSS] Missing kogito-examples update for the
> > > 10.0.0 release!
> > > Happy new 2025, everyone!
> > >
> > > As we discussed when we started the 10.0.0 release process, the
> > > kogito-examples repository was neither included in the release nor
> fully
> > > integrated into CI. Although some PR checks consider kogito-examples,
> > this
> > > gap ultimately led to absent examples for the 10.0.0 release.
> > >
> > > Currently:
> > >
> > > - The stable branch remains on versions 1.44 and 8.44
> > > - The main branch is on 999-SNAPSHOT
> > >
> > > Given that many of the kogito-examples rely on container images and Dev
> > UI,
> > > we'd need to incorporate the repository into our CI system to improve
> the
> > > current situation, which might take some time and will likely impact
> the
> > > upcoming releases.
> > >
> > > Alternatively, we could move the examples to kie-tools (a repo that
> > already
> > > hosts all images and DevUI) so no CI changes would be required.
> > >
> > > I would love to hear your thoughts, alternative ideas, or concerns so
> we
> > > can have an actionable plan to do better in the next release.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Alex
> > >
> >
>

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