Sending this again.  I think the apache servers stripped out the image on
the last email I sent.

Here is my original message:

I was looking around the site https://builds.apache.org/view/Heron%20Jobs/ .
I've logged in, but I don't see a way to create a freestyle
project/pipeline/anything in the UI.   Am I missing something obvious?

 Please see the google drive link below for the image I was trying to share
before.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BGjltTiRNZRfBaT5d2heTKEfKfUe0Irz/view?usp=sharing

On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 9:34 PM Josh Fischer <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hey All,
>
> I was looking around the site https://builds.apache.org/view/Heron%20Jobs/ .
> I've logged in, but I don't see a way to create a freestyle
> project/pipeline/anything in the UI.. See attached image.   Am I missing
> something?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 1:09 PM Ning Wang <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Cool.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 10:31 AM Josh Fischer <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I do too.  I’ll resend the email and try to move forward this week.
>> Ning,
>> >  If I get stuck Ill Let you know.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 12:02 PM Ning Wang <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Nice! I have access to Jenkins. Please let me know if you need helps
>> from
>> > > me.
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 9:40 AM Josh Fischer <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Just an update on the heron doc website. The actual website build
>> has
>> > > been
>> > > > fixed. I sent an email out to [email protected] asking about how to
>> > > > implement the process and describing what we would need in the
>> server
>> > to
>> > > > build about a week ago.  I didn’t get a reply back, I will try again
>> > this
>> > > > week.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 9:08 PM Ning Wang <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Great!
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 4:25 PM Josh Fischer <[email protected]>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Yes I think I am all set up now. Thank you for your help.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > - Josh
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 3:48 PM Dave Fisher <
>> [email protected]>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Hi Josh,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I see you in the group. Are you all set?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Regards,
>> > > > > > > Dave
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > On Apr 3, 2019, at 12:02 PM, Dave Fisher <
>> > [email protected]>
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Email stripped the image out. Please send it directly.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >> On Apr 3, 2019, at 11:54 AM, Josh Fischer <
>> > [email protected]>
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> Ok went to that link and nothing and authed with apache,
>> GH,
>> > and
>> > > > saw
>> > > > > > > confirmation of repos.  Still no access via UI or CLI.
>> > > > > > > >> Image attached.
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 1:46 PM Dave Fisher <
>> > > [email protected]
>> > > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > >> Infra has a question:
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> Could you please have him submit a screenshot of what
>> > > > > > > https://gitbox.apache.org/setup/ <
>> > https://gitbox.apache.org/setup/
>> > > >
>> > > > > says
>> > > > > > > after he has authed? He may need to reset his github linking
>> > (reset
>> > > > > link
>> > > > > > in
>> > > > > > > the middle box of the setup page.)
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> Regards,
>> > > > > > > >> Dave
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >>> On Apr 3, 2019, at 11:19 AM, Dave Fisher <
>> > > [email protected]
>> > > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > > >>> It looks like you are missing from the heron committers
>> group
>> > > on
>> > > > > Git
>> > > > > > > Hub. I’m asking Infra why on Slack. If no answer soon then
>> I’ll
>> > > file
>> > > > a
>> > > > > > JIRA.
>> > > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > > >>> Anyone else having issues?
>> > > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > > >>>> On Apr 3, 2019, at 11:03 AM, Josh Fischer <
>> > > [email protected]
>> > > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>> I do have 2FA enabled.  I've also tried to log in/ log
>> out.
>> > > No
>> > > > > > > success.
>> > > > > > > >>>> Any suggestions on who I should contact to help diagnose
>> and
>> > > > fix?
>> > > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 12:58 PM Dave Fisher <
>> > > > > [email protected]
>> > > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>> On Apr 3, 2019, at 10:49 AM, Josh Fischer <
>> > > > [email protected]
>> > > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>> Thanks for the info Dave.  I have a couple of
>> responses to
>> > > > your
>> > > > > > > >>>>> questions.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>> (1) Does the project wish to create documentation in a
>> new
>> > > > > > > repository -
>> > > > > > > >>>>> say
>> > > > > > > >>>>>> apache/incubator-heron-site
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>     Or should the build use an asf-site branch in
>> > > > > > > >>>>>> apache/incubator-heron which just keeps the deployed
>> > > content.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>> ** The site build is currently dependent on Bazel to
>> > > generate
>> > > > > > > Javadocs.
>> > > > > > > >>>>> I
>> > > > > > > >>>>>> think we should just have a "asf-site" branch that is
>> used
>> > > > > within
>> > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > >>>>>> current repo to serve static files from as it would
>> > require
>> > > > less
>> > > > > > > moving
>> > > > > > > >>>>>> parts.  Not sure if that would cause any issues with
>> the
>> > > > current
>> > > > > > > setup
>> > > > > > > >>>>>> though.  I was asking Ning a similar question on how to
>> > set
>> > > > this
>> > > > > > up
>> > > > > > > >>>>> since I
>> > > > > > > >>>>>> don't have write access to the repo yet.Hi -
>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>> Really? - Have you enabled 2FA on GitHub for your
>> > > > joshfischer1108
>> > > > > > > username?
>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>> I recommend that you get access fixed and then work on
>> > doing
>> > > > the
>> > > > > > > build
>> > > > > > > >>>>> locally. Once you have that we can work on the Jenkins
>> > build
>> > > > with
>> > > > > > > triggers.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>> (2) Does the website Jenkins box already support the
>> build
>> > > > > > > requirements.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>> ** I will look into this.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>> Ask on the-asf.slack.com <http://the-asf.slack.com/>
>> > > > #asfinfra -
>> > > > > > > tell them it is for a gitpubsub
>> > > > > > > >>>>> website build.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>> Regards,
>> > > > > > > >>>>> Dave
>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 10:43 AM Dave Fisher <
>> > > > > > [email protected]
>> > > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Hi -
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> TL:DR - The project should definitely use gitpubsub
>> > > approach.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Mar 28, 2019, at 7:08 PM, Josh Fischer <
>> > > > > [email protected]
>> > > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> How does everyone want to manage publishing the site?
>> > > After
>> > > > > > > looking at
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> docs it seems there are 3 options.  Being that we are
>> > > using
>> > > > > > git, I
>> > > > > > > >>>>> would
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> thing that gitsubpub would be the path of least
>> > > > resistance?...
>> > > > > > > But I
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> can't
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> find much on how to create the jenkins job.  Maybe
>> this
>> > is
>> > > > > > listed
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> somewhere
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> else in the documentation?  Does anyone have other
>> > > > suggestions
>> > > > > > or
>> > > > > > > >>>>> ideas?
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Here is link to the guidelines ->
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html <
>> > > > > > > http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html>. I copy and
>> pasted
>> > > some
>> > > > > > > >>>>> info
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> below on the different methods of website publishing
>> for
>> > > > quick
>> > > > > > > >>>>> reference.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - Apache CMS, which provides a simple browser-based
>> user
>> > > > > > > interface for
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> editing, staging and publishing site content in
>> > Markdown,
>> > > > HTML
>> > > > > > or
>> > > > > > > any
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> other
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> source format for which support has been added. See
>> the
>> > > CMS
>> > > > > > > reference
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> <https://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref <
>> > > > > > > https://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref>> and adoption
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> <https://www.apache.org/dev/cmsadoption <
>> > > > > > > https://www.apache.org/dev/cmsadoption>> for more details.
>> The
>> > > > Apache
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> CMS uses svnpubsub as the underlying mechanism for
>> > > > publishing
>> > > > > a
>> > > > > > > site.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> While this was home grown in Apache and all the rage
>> 7-8
>> > > > years
>> > > > > > ago
>> > > > > > > when
>> > > > > > > >>>>> I
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> used this to port over OpenOffice.org with a reskin.
>> This
>> > > > > should
>> > > > > > > not be
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> used. Infra wants people to stop and there are
>> occasional
>> > > > > > > publishing
>> > > > > > > >>>>> issues.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - svnpubsub, which allows the static contents of a
>> > > > designated
>> > > > > > svn
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> folder
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> (example <
>> > > > > > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ant/site/ant/production/ <
>> > > > > > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ant/site/ant/production/>>)
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> to
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> automatically published as the project web site at
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> http://project.apache.org/ <
>> http://project.apache.org/
>> > >.
>> > > > The
>> > > > > > > project team can use any site build
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> mechanism it wants as long as the above requirements
>> are
>> > > > met.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> The CMS also uses svnpubsub. Not many new projects or
>> > > > podlings
>> > > > > > are
>> > > > > > > using
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Subversion other than as required for releases.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - gitpubsub, which allows the static contents of a
>> > > > designated
>> > > > > > git
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> repository to be served as the website for a project.
>> > git
>> > > > > based
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> websites
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> are typically maintained in a asf-site branch to be
>> > > > published
>> > > > > as
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> https://project.apache.org <
>> https://project.apache.org/
>> > >.
>> > > > > They
>> > > > > > > can be hosted from your primary
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> project
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> repo. Typically these will be built as a jenkins job
>> or
>> > a
>> > > > > > buildbot
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> job. It
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> is recommended that you only have a single writer to
>> the
>> > > > > > asf-site
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> branch to
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> avoid potential conflicts.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> I’ve just revised the Incubator’s site build since we
>> > have
>> > > a
>> > > > > mix
>> > > > > > > of svn
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> legacy, current analysis and git static content.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> See https://github.com/apache/incubator <
>> > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator> and the README.md. This
>> is
>> > a
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> jBake site with two Jenkins build steps.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> This should be the approach. Two areas for further
>> > > > discussion.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> (1) Does the project wish to create documentation in a
>> > new
>> > > > > > > repository -
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> say apache/incubator-heron-site
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>     Or should the build use an asf-site branch in
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> apache/incubator-heron which just keeps the deployed
>> > > content.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> (2) Does the website Jenkins box already support the
>> > build
>> > > > > > > requirements.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Hugo --- Static site generator
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> GulpJS --- Build tool for static assets
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Twitter Bootstrap --- Sass/CSS and JavaScript
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Documentation Setup
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Running the Heron documentation locally requires
>> that
>> > you
>> > > > > have
>> > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> following installed:
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Make
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Node.js
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> npm
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> pip - install PyYAML>=3.12
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Go (make sure that your GOPATH and GOROOT are set)
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> What versions of the above and we can check with Infra
>> > > > through
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> email.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Regards,
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Dave
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 10:50 AM Josh Fischer <
>> > > > > > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> I have some time free over the next week, I can
>> look
>> > > into
>> > > > > > > fixing the
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> build.. However, I think we should figure out the
>> repo
>> > > > > > situation
>> > > > > > > >>>>> first
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> with
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> the submodule that is tied to the documentation.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> My responses are in *bold.  *
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 12:26 PM Dave Fisher <
>> > > > > > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for asking. This has been on my list to
>> > discuss
>> > > > with
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > >>>>> Heron
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> community.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> The website is seriously non-compliant.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2019, at 9:38 AM, Josh Fischer <
>> > > > > > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hey All,
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> With the heavy lifting behind us on the Bazel
>> > > upgrade, I
>> > > > > > > think the
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> next
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> task we should tackle is fixing the public docs.
>> I
>> > > have
>> > > > a
>> > > > > > few
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> questions
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> about them.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Are they still to be served from GH pages?
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> No.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. If not where do they need to live?
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> It should be on Apache servers as
>> heron.apache.org <
>> > > > > > > http://heron.apache.org/> <
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> http://heron.apache.org/ <
>> http://heron.apache.org/>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Many projects build through Jenkins. There are
>> > > > requirements
>> > > > > > > for the
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> site
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> which are scanned.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> There is a page here (needs some updates)
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html <
>> > > > > > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html> <
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html <
>> > > > > > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Some projects keep a separate GitHub repository
>> for
>> > > their
>> > > > > > > website.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> *  I would recommend  that we move the docs out of
>> > this
>> > > > repo
>> > > > > > or
>> > > > > > > at
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> least
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> remove the submodule.  Working within the submodule
>> > has
>> > > > been
>> > > > > > > quite a
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> difficult task.*
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> There is a lot wrong with the current website.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> This page was put onto the Incubator website this
>> > week.
>> > > > > (It’s
>> > > > > > > been
>> > > > > > > >>>>> my
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> “distraction” the last few weeks.)
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/heron.html#errata
>> > > <
>> > > > > > > https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/heron.html#errata> <
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/heron.html#errata
>> > > <
>> > > > > > > https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/heron.html#errata>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Check out that almost all ASF links, trademarks,
>> > > > > disclaimer,
>> > > > > > > and
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> copyrights are not correct on a site scan that is
>> > > > > > periodically
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> performed.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/heron <
>> > > > > > > https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/heron> <
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/heron <
>> > > > > > > https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/heron>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. If I remember correctly, some steps in the
>> > Makefile
>> > > > are
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> currently
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> broken for building the static assets.  Once
>> those
>> > > > issues
>> > > > > > are
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> resolved
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> is
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> there anything else we need to do to release new
>> set
>> > > of
>> > > > > > docs?
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Follow what I listed on 2.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> What technology is used to build assets currently?
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> *   It looks like is a mix of technologies.. The
>> main
>> > > one
>> > > > > > being
>> > > > > > > >>>>> Gulp.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> For generating java docs Bazel is used to query
>> > targets.
>> > > > > > > Generating
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> python
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> docs pdoc is used.    *
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Does updating the docs require a vote?
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Not normally. The Podling can decide if you want
>> to
>> > use
>> > > > RTC
>> > > > > > or
>> > > > > > > CTR.
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Since
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> everything is in version control I would lean to
>> CTR!
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Josh
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > Sent from A Mobile Device
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Sent from A Mobile Device
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > --
>> > Sent from A Mobile Device
>> >
>>
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