Just out of curiosity, what is needed to keep the project out Apache Attic. - how many volunteers are needed? - is there a resource requirement like hosting cloud based regular CI or local developer testing is enough? - is there a code contributions , release , release cadence requirement ?
Apologies if it’s already mentioned in a previous email or a document. Regards Naba On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 9:44 PM Henri Tremblay <henri.tremb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for the answer. > I'm not sure the tgz is used that much. > I was more thinking about maven central stats. > > Thanks, > Henri > > On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 at 05:56, Mark Bretl <mbr...@apache.org> wrote: > > > Hi Henri, > > > > Thank you for your response and willingness to help the community. For > the > > latest release, 1.14.4/apache-geode-1.14.4.tgz, there were 21 hits (most > > likely full downloads) for the current month. We have put out help > requests > > a few times over the past couple of years, but nothing seems to come to > > fruition with making changes. I feel that once we lost corporate > > sponsorship and 'support' went back to a private company, that is where > > most of the users are since it does take quite a bit of knowledge to > truly > > understand the value of the Geode technology. > > > > For CI, we have had talks with Apache Infra, however, they are not able > to > > support the needed infrastructure for a proper CI framework. As for > > maintaining and ownership of Geode, I think the Apache Software > Foundation > > is a great spot for most open source projects, including Geode. If anyone > > would want to revive Geode out of the Attic, it would go through the > > Incubator again to make sure it is self-sustaining again. I fully believe > > that a community should be more than a couple of members, especially for > > the level of effort needed, including the many source code repositories, > > build framework, website, ticketing/security issues, and more. If there > > truly is an effort to bring Geode from the Attic, if it is decided to go > > that way, then I would be all for it with the support it needs. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Mark Bretl > > Geode Project > > > > On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 10:28 AM Henri Tremblay < > henri.tremb...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I couldn't answer before but I am a bit (sad) surprised nobody > answered. > > > I'm a happy user of Geode. > > > Do you have the current download stats? > > > Am I the only one or we are millions but nobody wants to help? > > > > > > About help, I would be happy to discuss the requirements for build it, > CI > > > it, and manage it. > > > To see what I can do from there. > > > > > > Would it be possible to move it to another foundation or something at > > > Apache should stay at Apache forever even if it means going to the > Attic? > > > > > > On 2024/07/02 18:15:28 Mark Bretl wrote: > > > > Hello community, > > > > > > > > This is a hard email to write, as I did not think we would be in this > > > > situation when we launched Geode back in 2016, but this is the > > situation > > > we > > > > are in. I think we have given enough time after losing the 'corporate > > > > sponsorship' and still have not seen much traction. A few data > points: > > > > - No releases since September 2022 > > > > - CI framework has not recovered after moving from sponsored hardware > > > > - Minimal traffic on dev/user mailing lists > > > > - Outstanding security issues which we have no one to fix > > > > > > > > As of now, Geode is on a trajectory to have to move to the Apache > > Attic, > > > a > > > > place where projects go when they have reached an end of life. I am > > > writing > > > > this to the DEV/USER lists of the Geode community to see if we can > get > > > more > > > > volunteers to help with all aspects of the community from docs and > CICD > > > > framework to fixing issues and creating new features in the code. We > > will > > > > take any amount of willingness to help keep Geode as an active > project, > > > but > > > > we are not sustainable at this time. > > > > > > > > Please respond to this thread if you are wanting to help in any > > capacity > > > > with the project. I will keep this 'call for volunteers' open until > > July > > > > 22, at which point the PMC will begin a vote to move to the attic if > > > there > > > > is no significant increase in community development. > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > Mark Bretl > > > > Geode PMC Chair > > > > > > > > > > -- This electronic communication and the information and any files transmitted with it, or attached to it, are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, legally privileged, protected by privacy laws, or otherwise restricted from disclosure to anyone else. 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