How does the VMware’s non-disclosed date commitment factor into this equation?

I mean, clearly the Apache Geode 1.15 release has a lifecycle and support 
timeline, even if the community (and a new PMC) does drive the project any 
further?

What happens when CVEs, or critical bugs (involving data loss) are uncovered in 
1.15, yet? What even is 1.15’s support timeline and overall lifecycle? I would 
have assumed this would minimally have been 1 year from the GA of 1.15.0.

Regarding, “Geode maven artifacts would remain available from Maven Central.”

This is absolutely critical and necessary for Apache Geode’s ecosystem of 
projects (for example, Spring for Apache Goede, such as Spring Boot and Data 
for Apache Geode) to continue to build and release against Apache Geode 
versions/bits until the end of the ecosystem project’s (e.g. SDG) support 
timeline.

-John


From: Owen Nichols <onich...@vmware.com.INVALID>
Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 11:50 AM
To: dev@geode.apache.org <dev@geode.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Move geode to the attic
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Once moved to the attic, it sounds like:

  *   The geode github repo would become read-only (but remain world-readable 
in perpetuity).
  *   Geode would no longer be available for download on the geode download 
site or mirrors (but still available in releases tab in github).
  *   Geode maven artifacts would remain available from mavencentral.
  *   Geode homebrew formula would no longer be installable.
  *   Unsure whether apachegeode/geode docker image would remain available?
  *   Geode confluence wiki would become read-only.
  *   It sound like the user mailing list may be able to remain active?

Since no further release are possible without at least 3 active PMC members to 
provide the requisite 3 approving PMC votes, the Attic sounds like the best 
possible way to leave things.

From: Dan Smith <dasm...@vmware.com.INVALID>
Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 11:12 AM
To: dev@geode.apache.org <dev@geode.apache.org>
Subject: [DISCUSS] Move geode to the attic
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Hi folks,

Unfortunately, it is time to consider moving Geode to the Apache attic. After 
VMware's announcement that it will stop contributing to Geode, we've tried in 
the last couple months to recruit additional contributors to continue 
supporting the project [1]. However, this last week there was a PMC role call 
on the private list and it appears we will only have one active PMC member 
after the VMware folks completely leave.

I think at this point the responsible thing to do is dissolve the Geode PMC and 
move the project to the attic, unless some new contributors suddenly show up. 
We need a minimum of 3 PMC members to keep the project viable.

This is not yet a vote. I'll let this discussion run this week and start a vote 
next week. I believe even if we vote to dissolve the project and move to the 
attic, the soonest that process would start would be after the November board 
meeting [2].

Thanks,
-Dan

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