As far as I am aware, I think this is already a settled decision. The decision 
was quick revert. 
In almost every case the build is more important than the change.

Thanks,
Mark

> On Apr 29, 2020, at 4:14 PM, Robert Houghton <rhough...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> 
> I am very pro-revert for breaking changes. The Benchmark or Windows tests
> being a culprit is unfortunate, since the PR pipeline cannot tell us about
> those, but thats the cost of our excellence :)
> 
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 4:06 PM Owen Nichols <onich...@pivotal.io 
> <mailto:onich...@pivotal.io>> wrote:
> 
>> There are many ways a commit can break the Geode CI pipeline[1] despite
>> our required PR checks, such as:
>> - merge a PR that failed some non-required PR checks
>> - merge a PR that last ran checks awhile ago and now interacts
>> unexpectedly with other recent changes
>> - merge a PR that fails Windows tests
>> - merge a PR that fails Benchmarks tests
>> 
>> When a bad commit gets through for whatever reason, what should happen
>> next?  For example:
>> - bring it up on the dev list
>> - someone should revert the change as soon as possible, allowing the
>> pipeline to remain green while the issue is addressed
>> - a reasonable amount of time should be allowed for someone to make a
>> quick fix, otherwise revert.
>> - the pipeline should remain broken for as long as it takes to fix, as
>> long as there is clear communication that someone is working on it
>> - everyone look the other way and hope it fixes itself
>> 
>> I’m sure there are other ideas as well.  A related question is *who* can
>> or should revert a bad commit?  Only the person that merged the PR?  Only
>> the original author of the PR?  The first person to notice the problem?
>> 
>> What is a reasonable amount of time for this to happen?  2 hours? 2 days?
>> 2 weeks? Does it depend whether the bad commit is also affecting PR checks
>> for everyone else vs only depriving downstream consumers of new Geode
>> -SNAPSHOTs?
>> 
>> Would you take offense if someone else reverted your commit?  Does is make
>> a difference if your commit is exposing an existing issue (as opposed to
>> introducing a new bug)?
>> 
>> Is there a perception that reverts create a lot of extra work? (they
>> shouldn’t--just start your rework PR with a revert of the revert, then add
>> additional commits that resolve the issue, so reviewers can easily see what
>> was missing the first time)
>> 
>> This is a discussion thread, not a vote.  We trust committers to do what’s
>> best.  Would embracing a “anyone can revert, no shame”
>> revert-first-then-fix culture benefit our community, or is our current
>> easygoing approach working just fine?
>> 
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