As far as I am aware, I think this is already a settled decision. The decision was quick revert. In almost every case the build is more important than the change.
Thanks, Mark > On Apr 29, 2020, at 4:14 PM, Robert Houghton <rhough...@pivotal.io> wrote: > > I am very pro-revert for breaking changes. The Benchmark or Windows tests > being a culprit is unfortunate, since the PR pipeline cannot tell us about > those, but thats the cost of our excellence :) > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 4:06 PM Owen Nichols <onich...@pivotal.io > <mailto:onich...@pivotal.io>> wrote: > >> There are many ways a commit can break the Geode CI pipeline[1] despite >> our required PR checks, such as: >> - merge a PR that failed some non-required PR checks >> - merge a PR that last ran checks awhile ago and now interacts >> unexpectedly with other recent changes >> - merge a PR that fails Windows tests >> - merge a PR that fails Benchmarks tests >> >> When a bad commit gets through for whatever reason, what should happen >> next? For example: >> - bring it up on the dev list >> - someone should revert the change as soon as possible, allowing the >> pipeline to remain green while the issue is addressed >> - a reasonable amount of time should be allowed for someone to make a >> quick fix, otherwise revert. >> - the pipeline should remain broken for as long as it takes to fix, as >> long as there is clear communication that someone is working on it >> - everyone look the other way and hope it fixes itself >> >> I’m sure there are other ideas as well. A related question is *who* can >> or should revert a bad commit? Only the person that merged the PR? Only >> the original author of the PR? The first person to notice the problem? >> >> What is a reasonable amount of time for this to happen? 2 hours? 2 days? >> 2 weeks? Does it depend whether the bad commit is also affecting PR checks >> for everyone else vs only depriving downstream consumers of new Geode >> -SNAPSHOTs? >> >> Would you take offense if someone else reverted your commit? Does is make >> a difference if your commit is exposing an existing issue (as opposed to >> introducing a new bug)? >> >> Is there a perception that reverts create a lot of extra work? (they >> shouldn’t--just start your rework PR with a revert of the revert, then add >> additional commits that resolve the issue, so reviewers can easily see what >> was missing the first time) >> >> This is a discussion thread, not a vote. We trust committers to do what’s >> best. Would embracing a “anyone can revert, no shame” >> revert-first-then-fix culture benefit our community, or is our current >> easygoing approach working just fine? >> >> [1] >> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fconcourse.apachegeode-ci.info%2Fteams%2Fmain%2Fpipelines%2Fapache-develop-main&data=02%7C01%7Chansonm%40vmware.com%7C631cbe6f65c14bbb030108d7ec931267%7Cb39138ca3cee4b4aa4d6cd83d9dd62f0%7C0%7C0%7C637237988725318710&sdata=2ecuh535cj7G9i8STCT32zyunsnrcupg4c8dowrGwvo%3D&reserved=0 >> >> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fconcourse.apachegeode-ci.info%2Fteams%2Fmain%2Fpipelines%2Fapache-develop-main&data=02%7C01%7Chansonm%40vmware.com%7C631cbe6f65c14bbb030108d7ec931267%7Cb39138ca3cee4b4aa4d6cd83d9dd62f0%7C0%7C0%7C637237988725318710&sdata=2ecuh535cj7G9i8STCT32zyunsnrcupg4c8dowrGwvo%3D&reserved=0>