Hi Geode Community,

After some further analysis, few of the threads are hanging in our
application using the release branch. Here is an example stacktrace.
*** Hung thread
"vm_5_thr_5_client1_host1_21862" #457 daemon prio=5 os_prio=0
tid=0x00007fc204009800 nid=0x69aa waiting on condition
[0x00007fc1de195000]
   java.lang.Thread.State: TIMED_WAITING (parking)
  at sun.misc.Unsafe.park(Native Method)
  - parking to wait for  <0x00000000f10d8098> (a
java.util.concurrent.CountDownLatch$Sync)
  at java.util.concurrent.locks.LockSupport.parkNanos(LockSupport.java:215)
  at 
java.util.concurrent.locks.AbstractQueuedSynchronizer.doAcquireSharedNanos(AbstractQueuedSynchronizer.java:1037)
  at 
java.util.concurrent.locks.AbstractQueuedSynchronizer.tryAcquireSharedNanos(AbstractQueuedSynchronizer.java:1328)
  at java.util.concurrent.CountDownLatch.await(CountDownLatch.java:277)
  at 
org.apache.geode.internal.util.concurrent.StoppableCountDownLatch.await(StoppableCountDownLatch.java:72)
  at 
org.apache.geode.distributed.internal.ReplyProcessor21.basicWait(ReplyProcessor21.java:731)
  at 
org.apache.geode.distributed.internal.ReplyProcessor21.waitForRepliesUninterruptibly(ReplyProcessor21.java:802)
  at 
org.apache.geode.distributed.internal.ReplyProcessor21.waitForRepliesUninterruptibly(ReplyProcessor21.java:779)
  at 
org.apache.geode.distributed.internal.ReplyProcessor21.waitForRepliesUninterruptibly(ReplyProcessor21.java:865)
  at 
org.apache.geode.internal.cache.execute.FunctionStreamingResultCollector.waitForCacheOrFunctionException(FunctionStreamingResultCollector.java:439)
  at 
org.apache.geode.internal.cache.partitioned.PRFunctionStreamingResultCollector.getResult(PRFunctionStreamingResultCollector.java:90)

We did some further investigation and we presume that it was introduced by
the following commit.
GEODE-6973: Use cachelistener to synchronize typeToId with IdToType r…
(#3853)

We are planning to revert this commit in the release branch as this is a
necessary fix that needs to be in the release.

Regards
Nabarun Nag



On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 1:39 PM Bruce Schuchardt <bschucha...@pivotal.io>
wrote:

> +1
>
> On 8/6/19 1:33 PM, Nabarun Nag wrote:
> > +1 on getting the Fix [Upgrade
> > log4j from 2.11.1 to 2.12.0 and mark log4j-core as an optional dependency
> > in the geode-core pom.] in.
> >
> >
> > Spring Data for Apache Geode has been removed from Spring Initializr
> > because of the issue with  log4j dependencies, also IntelliJ doesn't list
> > it as a NoSQL dependency. I would prefer that it is resolved in this
> > release and not wait for 3-4 months.
> >
> > Regards
> > Naba
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 1:00 PM Owen Nichols <onich...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Kirk, thank you for bringing your concern.
> >>
> >> Yes, release/1.10.0 was created last week <
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/4d4388ccab1170d94b8b6d204efe9197a4d3ddc2d25cbb6e6cecee0d@%3Cdev.geode.apache.org%3E
> >
> >> as planned.  Our current process <
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/d36a63c3794d13506ecad3d52a2aca938dcf0f8509b61860bbbc50cd@%3Cdev.geode.apache.org%3E
> >
> >> dictates a time-based schedule to cut release branches.  Once cut, the
> >> “critical fixes” rule allows critical fixes to be brought to the release
> >> branch by proposal on the dev list.
> >>
> >> Currently the 1.10.0 release pipeline <
> >>
> https://concourse.apachegeode-ci.info/teams/main/pipelines/apache-release-1-10-0-main
> >
> >> is all green.  If there is consensus from the Geode community that this
> >> log4j change satisfies the “critical fixes” rule, Dick or I will be
> happy
> >> to bring it to the 1.10.0 release branch.
> >>
> >> -Owen
> >>
> >>> On Aug 6, 2019, at 12:49 PM, Kirk Lund <kl...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Did we already cut the 1.10 branch?
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to find out if it's possible to get a change into 1.10:
> Upgrade
> >>> log4j from 2.11.1 to 2.12.0 and mark log4j-core as an optional
> dependency
> >>> in the geode-core pom.
> >>>
> >>> Getting this change into 1.10 will make things much easier for Spring
> >> Boot
> >>> Data Geode. When using Geode with Spring Boot, log4j-core has to be
> >>> manually excluded so that logback can be used instead. The change to
> >> log4j
> >>> 2.12.0 will also help as they have already have some dependency on
> 2.12.0
> >>> (probably log4j-to-slf4j). I can find out more precise details if
> needed.
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 9:35 AM Dick Cavender <di...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> In preparation for cutting the release branch have we confirmed that
> >>>> Geode's LICENSE and NOTICE file been confirmed to accurately reflect
> >> what
> >>>> is being shipped for v1.10?
> >>>>
> >>>>  From Apache: http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html
> >>>> *"*The LICENSE and NOTICE files must exactly represent the contents of
> >> the
> >>>> distribution they reside in."
> >>>>
> >>>> Ideally this is kept up to date during development as the dependencies
> >>>> change or are added but this often is missed and needs to be
> reconciled
> >> on
> >>>> develop before we cut a release branch.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Dick
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 6:04 PM Owen Nichols <onich...@pivotal.io>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>  From that email:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To make this work, it's important to be strict
> >>>>> about cutting the release branch on the set date and only allow
> >> critical
> >>>>> fixes after the release has been cut. Once we start compromising on
> >> this,
> >>>>> we go down a slippery slope that ultimately leads to not getting the
> >>>>> predictability benefits described here.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We are perilously close to the "slippery slope”:
> >>>>> * Geode 1.8.0 was announced on Dec 12 — almost 8 months ago
> >>>>> * Geode 1.9.0 was announced on Apr 25 — putting us about 5 weeks late
> >>>>> already on cutting the 1.10 branch
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It seems like the community reaction to branching from the SHA
> >> initially
> >>>>> proposed is “woah, not quite yet”.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To get last-minute stuff in (or out) and get back on track, I propose
> >>>>> setting a strict CUT date for the 1.10 branch at 3PM PDT Thursday
> >> August
> >>>> 1.
> >>>>> -Owen
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Jul 30, 2019, at 5:31 PM, Alexander Murmann <amurm...@apache.org
> >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi Karen,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Here is the previous discussion that was very positively received:
> >>>>>>
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/d36a63c3794d13506ecad3d52a2aca938dcf0f8509b61860bbbc50cd@%3Cdev.geode.apache.org%3E
> >>>>>> However, JIRA tells me that GEODE-7013 is already fixed. If we were
> to
> >>>> go
> >>>>>> with a SHA from this week, for which Jake also chimed in with plenty
> >> of
> >>>>>> reasons, this should be in the release.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 5:10 PM Karen Miller <kmil...@pivotal.io>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Alexander, can you point me at the policy decision for the
> "critical
> >>>>> issue"
> >>>>>>> rule you mention? I always though it was up
> >>>>>>> to the release manager.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I want GEODE-7013 fixes in because it is the right thing to do.
> Our
> >>>>> gfsh
> >>>>>>> help/hint wasn't working the way we say that it did.
> >>>>>>> With the fix, it does.  I want either the documentation to match
> the
> >>>>> code,
> >>>>>>> or I want the code to match the documentation.
> >>>>>>> The fix in GEODE-7013 changes the code to match the existing
> >>>>> documentation,
> >>>>>>> so we don't have to change the documentation
> >>>>>>> (which would have needed to be cherry-picked into our 1.10 release
> >>>>> branch).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 11:47 AM Owen Nichols <onich...@pivotal.io
> >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Our "critical issue” rule has the effect that the bar to commit to
> >>>>>>> develop
> >>>>>>>> is “low”, but the bar to cherry-pick to support branch is “very
> >>>> high”.
> >>>>>>>> Contributors could plan around this disparity more easily if any
> of
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>> following were true:
> >>>>>>>> - releases were more frequent
> >>>>>>>> - planned cut date of release branch was announced in advance
> >> (rather
> >>>>>>> than
> >>>>>>>> retroactively)
> >>>>>>>> - a process existed for making exceptions to the “critical issue”
> >>>> rule
> >>>>>>>> I agree that the proposed SHA looks like a relatively stable
> >>>>> branchpoint
> >>>>>>>> (coming near the end of a nice period of solid green in the
> >>>> pipeline),
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> I acknowledge that fair warning was given a week ago that a branch
> >>>> was
> >>>>>>>> “coming soon”, but I wonder if there is anything we can do to make
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>> rules for what gets in a release and what doesn’t feel a little
> less
> >>>>>>>> arbitrary?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -Owen
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2019, at 11:16 AM, Alexander Murmann <
> >>>> amurm...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Dick, thank you for stepping up!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I think it's great to cut the branch sooner rather than later.
> >> There
> >>>>>>>>> already is GEODE-7012 which introduces a distributed deadlock
> >> during
> >>>>>>>>> startup. That seems like a critical issue to fix. That should be
> >>>> able
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> happen after we cut the branch though.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Karen, I wonder if that could be merged after the branch got cut,
> >>>> but
> >>>>>>>> also
> >>>>>>>>> wonder if that fits our "critical issue" rule for being merged
> >> after
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> branch has been cut or hold up the release. This has been broken
> >>>> since
> >>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>> very long time. Thoughts?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 10:51 AM Karen Miller <
> kmil...@pivotal.io>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> I'd like to see the changes from
> >>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GEODE-7013 included in
> the
> >>>>>>> Geode
> >>>>>>>>>> 1.10
> >>>>>>>>>> release. GEODE-7013's changes restore gfsh help/hint behavior
> that
> >>>>> was
> >>>>>>>> lost
> >>>>>>>>>> during a refactor in the earliest
> >>>>>>>>>> releases of Geode.  The commit occurred after SHA1
> >>>>>>>>>> dc6890107a2651d8ba1450e8db8a1c39d712fdc7.
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks.  Karen
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 10:39 AM Dick Cavender <
> di...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> I'll take on the Release Manager role for Geode 1.10 with the
> >>>> 1.9.0
> >>>>>>>>>> release
> >>>>>>>>>>> manager's help (Owen:).
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to propose cutting the release/1.10 branch off develop
> >>>> sha:
> >>>>>>>>>>> dc6890107a2651d8ba1450e8db8a1c39d712fdc7
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> aka: 1.10.0-SNAPSHOT.476
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Please speak up and discuss. We'll then start taking
> >>>> considerations
> >>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>> additional changes for 1.1.0 after we get the branch and
> pipeline
> >>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>> place.
> >>>>>>>>>>> -Dick
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 4:08 PM Alexander Murmann <
> >>>>>>> amurm...@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for calling this out Ernie!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> It might be a good idea to cut the release and at the same
> time
> >>>>> keep
> >>>>>>>>>>>> looking for urgent issues that need to be resolved and merged.
> >>>> Once
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> branch is cut, we release likelihood of new issues being
> >>>>> introduced.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know of any other issues, we'd want to make sure
> get
> >>>>>>>>>>> addressed
> >>>>>>>>>>>> before we ship?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 3:36 PM Ernest Burghardt <
> >>>>>>>>>> eburgha...@pivotal.io>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a PR #3844 <
> https://github.com/apache/geode/pull/3844
> >>>>> up
> >>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> address GEODE-7012 <
> >>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GEODE-7012
> >>>>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> think this should be in the next release...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> EB
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 4:07 PM Alexander Murmann <
> >>>>>>>>>> amurm...@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Cutting the release*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we have any volunteers to take over the release manager
> >>>> role?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Re: Udo's concerns*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> While I believe that iterations of this particular work have
> >>>> been
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> discussed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the mailing list as far back as March 2018, I do think
> that
> >>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>> should
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> take Udo's response as an indicator that something with our
> >>>>> larger
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> proposal
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> process needs to be improved. We used to have synchronous
> >> Geode
> >>>>>>>>>> club
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> house
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sessions. For future discussions and for proposals in
> >>>> particular,
> >>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>>>> think
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it would be great to supplement our asynchronous mailing
> list
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> communication
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a synchronous video chat discussions by the community.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 4:02 PM Dan Smith <
> dsm...@pivotal.io>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 for cutting a 1.10.0 release branch.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 3:55 PM Nabarun Nag <
> n...@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe the original authors of the feature has done
> their
> >>>>>>>>>> due
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diligence
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and followed all steps, we can get this feature in under
> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Experimental
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flag and let the community improve on it, if there is
> >>>> anything
> >>>>>>>>>>> else
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs to be done.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have done this before for Lucene re-index feature,
> where
> >>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> involved
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entire community in its development, phase by phase. The
> >> wiki
> >>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>> up
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running, if someone has any concerns can raise it as a
> JIRA
> >>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> comment
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the wiki and the community as a whole can decide if it is
> a
> >>>>>>>>>> valid
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concern or not and act upon it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nabarun Nag
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 3:40 PM Udo Kohlmeyer <
> >>>> u...@apache.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Alexander + @Jared,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So maybe that was my misunderstanding on the RFC (not
> being
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> optional
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new feature work). Given that this is a new feature,
> there
> >>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> significant risk to getting it "wrong".
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was expecting more discussion around this. I have some
> >>>>>>>>>>>> objections
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the current approach/design. Given that my day job does
> not
> >>>>>>>>>>> allow
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> me
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> respond in a timely manner, I would have not been able to
> >>>> get
> >>>>>>>>>>> all
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> my
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concerns raised. In addition, throwing something onto the
> >>>>>>>>>> wiki,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a few weeks before we'd like to cut a version raising a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> discussion
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thread on work that has been going on for months already
> >>>> does
> >>>>>>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> help
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the community being able to read, digest, think,
> >> reason
> >>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> respond
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BEFORE it is released.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know `@Experimental` is non-binding on API's or usage,
> >> BUT
> >>>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> prefer
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some of the ground work to have been discussed, API's
> >>>>>>>>>> validated
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BEFORE
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is released into the wild. I mean this is a PUBLIC
> API,
> >>>> so
> >>>>>>>>>>>> we'd
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prefer to get it more correct than the previous one.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe it is just me, taking it too serious... Where I
> >> prefer
> >>>>>>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something as close to 95% correct (and discussed).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway.. If we want to cut 1.10... and we should... Let's
> >> do
> >>>>>>>>>>> so..
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd prefer that more on the correctness on the approach.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Udo
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/25/19 11:08 AM, Alexander Murmann wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't believe we should be including anything into
> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> Geode
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that has not gone through the correct process of
> feature
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> proposal.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All work under the experimental cluster management
> >> service
> >>>>>>>>>>> has
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been approved by the agreed upon RFC process.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Udo, I didn't take the RFC process that we agreed on to
> be
> >>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> gate
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keeper,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but rather a way to de-risk work before making a PR.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  From the RFC doc in the wiki:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When to write an RFC?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Writing an RFC should be entirely voluntary. There is
> >>>>>>>>>> always
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going straight to a pull request. However, for larger
> >>>>>>>>>>> changes,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wise to de-risk the risk of rejection of the pull
> request
> >>>>>>>>>> by
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> first
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gathering input from the community. Therefore it’s up
> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> every
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> member
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our community to decide themselves when they want to
> >> reach
> >>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tool.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we want to change the role of the RFC process, that's
> >>>>>>>>>> fine
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we should have that discussion first.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 10:30 AM Jared Stewart <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stewart.ja...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What was missing from the RFC process for the cluster
> >>>>>>>>>>>> management
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> service?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I saw a [Discuss] thread for it, as well as a proposal
> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/GEODE/Cluster+Management+Service
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 10:02 AM Udo Kohlmeyer <
> >>>>>>>>>>>> u...@apache.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't believe we should be including anything into
> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Geode
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that has not gone through the correct process of
> feature
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> proposal.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All work under the experimental cluster management
> >>>>>>>>>> service
> >>>>>>>>>>>> has
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been approved by the agreed upon RFC process.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't believe we should be including this work,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> experimental
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> otherwise.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Udo
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/22/19 4:51 PM, Alexander Murmann wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Udo, do you mind explaining how the RFC process comes
> >>>>>>>>>> into
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> this?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggesting that we should wait if an RFC had a target
> >>>>>>>>>>>> release
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attached?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 4:47 PM Udo Kohlmeyer <
> >>>>>>>>>>>> u...@apache.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think we need to wait for this, as there has
> >>>>>>>>>> been
> >>>>>>>>>>>> no
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> RFC
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> followed.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Udo
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/22/19 3:38 PM, Jinmei Liao wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Work is still being planned to move the cluster
> >>>>>>>>>>> management
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rest
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> service
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under an experimental version flag and use a geode
> >>>>>>>>>>>> property
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on/off. I would say we are ready to cut the geode
> >>>>>>>>>> 1.10.0
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> after
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complete.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 3:24 PM Alexander Murmann <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amurm...@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We released Geode 1.9.0 on April 25th. That's
> about
> >> 3
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> months
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> End
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last year we discussed releasing quarterly. In the
> >>>>>>>>>> past
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> we've
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month between cutting a release branch and
> actually
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> shipping
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minor.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This means we are already behind our target
> release
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> cadence.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are your thoughts on cutting a 1.10.0 release
> >>>>>>>>>>> branch
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone like to volunteer to be the release
> >>>>>>>>>>> manager
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> geode
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.10.0?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you all!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>
>

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