I think there are a lot of dependencies when deploying geode that rely on 
well-known ports and port ranges (e.g. exporting ports from a container, 
firewall rules, etc).  Changing the default server port from 40404 to ?? would 
break stuff.

Here’s the rule from our own Dockerfile:

# Default ports:
# RMI/JMX 1099
# REST 8080
# PULE 7070
# LOCATOR 10334
# CACHESERVER 40404
EXPOSE  8080 10334 40404 1099 7070

Anthony


> On Oct 5, 2018, at 1:45 PM, Jacob Barrett <jbarr...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> 
> But if all ports where ephemeral by default then no collisions right? Why 
> have any port have a default to a single fixed value or overlapping range of 
> values. Since our opinionated use case is for clients to connect via locators 
> then a known server port isn’t important. 
> 
>> On Oct 5, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Dan Smith <dsm...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>> 
>> The problem is that the membership port is picked *first*. So it may pick
>> 40404. Then, when the cache server tries to use port 40404, it gets a
>> collision.
>> 
>> -Dan
>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 10:52 AM Jacob Barrett <jbarr...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If we just default to 0 then the OS will pick is a port in whatever range
>>> is ephemeral and free. We don’t have to do any work. No need to define a
>>> range and seek an open port.
>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 5, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Dan Smith <dsm...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 10:31 AM Jacob Barrett <jbarr...@pivotal.io>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Why not change the default behavior to that of port 0, letting the OS
>>>>> select an open ephemeral port if the user doesn’t specify a specific
>>> port?
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I think what we'd really like to do is change the cache server port to
>>>> something other than 40404. Maybe 0 (pick a port), or maybe something
>>> less
>>>> than 32K.
>>>> 
>>>> Unfortunately, on most linux distributions the ephemeral port range is
>>> 32K
>>>> -> 61K, which includes 40404, which I think is why Brian is proposing a
>>>> subset of that range.
>>>> 
>>>> -Dan
>>> 

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