Exactly what Kirk said!
> On Sep 21, 2018, at 10:34 AM, Kirk Lund <kl...@apache.org> wrote: > > Most of these logWriter or logger usages are in larger end-to-end tests > that were written before we could using IDE debuggers on our tests. With a > debugger, I don't want to see more output from the test so I tend to delete > all such System.out.printlns or LogWriter/Logger usage. > > My recommendation is to delete all extra System.out.printlns AND > LogWriter/Logger usages unless it's part of the test itself. If you think > the line is useful, then would it be sufficient as a comment? If not then > maybe the test is too long, doing too much and should be exploded into > several easier to debug test methods with more narrow focus. > > Remember, a single test that does a lot and has tons of assertions is an > anti-pattern. It's better to split that test out into many tests such that > by seeing that the test failed, you either know exactly what broke without > digging too much or at least have a pretty good idea where to dig. Sure, > there's a balance to strike especially in end-to-end tests but if the test > method scrolls along for many screens, then most likely it's doing too much > and the author(s) added logging to compensate for this. > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 2:10 PM, Darrel Schneider <dschnei...@pivotal.io> > wrote: > >> For simple single threaded tests System.out would do the job. >> For a multi-threaded test I have found the logging framework to be helpful >> because of the thread id and the timestamps. >> >> >>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 1:50 PM Dale Emery <dem...@pivotal.io> wrote: >>> >>> As long as the stdout is available in the test results, I’m more than >>> happy to avoid coupling the tests to the product logging code. >>> >>>> On Sep 20, 2018, at 1:39 PM, Galen O'Sullivan <gosulli...@pivotal.io> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I was reviewing a PR recently and noticed that we have some test code >>> that >>>> uses Logger (or LogWriter). If I understand correctly, anything logged >> to >>>> stdout will be included in the test output, and anything logged in a >>> DUnit >>>> VM will be logged with the appropriate VM number prepended in the >> output. >>>> Because logging is coupled to product code, I propose we log all test >>>> output to standard out (using System.out.println or such). I also >> propose >>>> we add this to the Geode style guide. >>>> >>>> Thoughts/questions/objections? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Galen >>> >>> >>> — >>> Dale Emery >>> dem...@pivotal.io >>> >>> >>