In regard to sending the configuration state to the clients for the partition 
resolver maybe the config should be a domain object independent of the business 
object rather than the serialized form of the partition resolver itself. The 
rational for this would be that non-Java clients could get the config as PDX 
(or some other language neutral scheme) and initialize their native language 
version of the partition resolver with this config.

-Jake


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> On Jun 7, 2017, at 11:42 AM, Darrel Schneider <dschnei...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for all the feedback. Since this is such a simple resolver with a
> fixed delimiter the following changes were made to the original proposal:
> 1. The StringPrefixPartitionResolver will be in the
> "org.apache.geode.cache.util" package.
>    This was done to keep it from being viewed as part of the core API. It
> is just a simple implementation
>    of one of the core API interfaces that user can use if they find it
> helpful.
> 2. The fixed delimiter was changed from ":" to "|". The character still has
> the visual appearance of
>    delimiting two fields with the benefit of being used less often than
> ":". Since the delimiter can not
>    be configured that makes it more likely someone can use this resolver.
> 
> I think the ideas about more complex resolvers are interesting and the
> existence of this simple resolver does not prevent other resolver
> implementations from also being added to the util package. For example one
> that is regex based or spring expression based.
> 
> One of the things discovered was that if a PartitionResolver has state (for
> example a configured delimiter, or regex, or spring expression) then that
> java clients will not be able to single hop to the server region with that
> resolver. Our servers send the single hop java clients just the class name
> of the PartitionResolver. The instance of the actual resolver is not
> serialized to the client. The java client single hop code attempts to
> create an instance of it by invoking a no-arg constructor. So any state
> stored in the server's resolver instance will be lost. If the resolver
> class does not have a no-arg constructor then the java client will be
> unable to load an instance and just disable single hop. But if it had two
> constructors, say one that has no-arg and configures a default delimiter
> and another that take a delimiter as an arg, then in that case the single
> hop client would lose the delimiter configured on the server and revert to
> the default one from the no-arg constructor. It seems like this could cause
> all kinds of bad things to happen. For example in the case of a
> StringPrefixPartitionResolver that allows the delimiter to be configured
> that one used on this client to route keys to the server would have the
> wrong delimiter and complain that the key does not contain the delimiter. I
> will file a geode ticket about this issue but wanted to have it on this
> thread to help explain why this initial resolver is not configurable.
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 1:20 PM, Jacob Barrett <jbarr...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>> 
>> I have to agree. Something this trivial an limiting is better suited for a
>> blog post or examples somewhere and not a part of the core codebase.
>> 
>> -Jake
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 1:27 PM Udo Kohlmeyer <ukohlme...@pivotal.io>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> My concern with this approach is that we provide an implementation that
>>> might be a white elephant and only used by a 1% user base. In addition
>>> to that, it does really restrict the user on his keys.
>>> 
>>> Whereas something a little more configurable, like a SPEL
>>> implementation, would provide a lot more flexibility. Which means that
>>> one could easily change the partition resolver expression upon region
>>> creation/configuration.
>>> 
>>> --Udo
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 6/5/17 08:46, Jens Deppe wrote:
>>>> I like the idea of keeping the configuration 'conventional' and thus
>> not
>>>> requiring any server configuration. As soon as you need to define a
>> regex
>>>> on the server you might as well be writing PartitionResolver code.
>>>> 
>>>> As an aside I also think that using regexes to parse keys would also
>>>> introduce a measurable performance hit.
>>>> 
>>>> --Jens
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 8:21 AM, Udo Kohlmeyer <ukohlme...@pivotal.io>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Whilst I like the idea to make something (and yes,
>>>>> DelimitedStringPartitionResolver is the simplest), I feel that we
>> might
>>>>> be able to do one better.
>>>>> 
>>>>> */Could/* one possibly have an /*SPEL*/ <
>> https://docs.spring.io/spring
>>>>> 
>>> -framework/docs/current/spring-framework-reference/
>> html/expressions.html>-based
>>>>> PartitionResolver for this? At least this way, we don't have to rely
>> on
>>>>> delimiters or a strong knowledge of REGEX.
>>>>> 
>>>>> IMO, this would provide the greatest bang for buck implementation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --Udo
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6/2/17 19:15, Jacob Barrett wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you implement as regular expression the user doesn't have to
>>> reformat
>>>>>> their key to a specific format (akin to making them implement a
>>> class). I
>>>>>> would concat the matching groups for generate the routing key.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Consider RegEx: .*\bcorrelation=(\d+).*\bmaybe-something-else=(\w)
>>>>>> With Keys:
>>>>>> A: my,key;with:any-chars;unique=12345;correlation=678/and,maybe
>>>>>> -something-else=a
>>>>>> B: my,key;unique=876324;correlation=678;and,maybe-
>> something-else=a,foo
>>>>>> C:
>>> somthing;different=988975;correlation=678;then,maybe-something-else=ba
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Keys A and B would have routing key '678a'. Key C would have routing
>>> key
>>>>>> '678b'.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Jake
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Consider
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 4:02 PM Darrel Schneider <
>> dschnei...@pivotal.io
>>>> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Geode partitioned regions usually partition the data based on the
>> key's
>>>>>>> hashcode.
>>>>>>> You can do your own partitioning by implementing the
>> PartitionResolver
>>>>>>> interface and configuring it on the partitioned region.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In some use cases needing to deploy your class that implements
>>>>>>> PartitionResolver can be problematic so we would like to find a way
>> to
>>>>>>> offer partitioning based on a portion of the key (instead of the
>>> default
>>>>>>> which uses the entire key) that does not require you to implement
>> your
>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>> PartitionResolver and does not require you to deploy your own code
>> to
>>> do
>>>>>>> the custom partitioning.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Another group of users that do not want to implement
>> PartitionResolver
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> non-java clients. So the solution is required to be usable by
>> non-java
>>>>>>> geode clients without needing to reimplement the client to support a
>>> new
>>>>>>> feature.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Another constraint on the solution is for it to be both easy to use
>>> and
>>>>>>> easy to implement.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The proposed solution is to provide a class named:
>>>>>>>      org.apache.geode.cache.StringPrefixPartitionResolver
>>>>>>> This class will implement PartitionResolver and have a default
>>>>>>> constructor.
>>>>>>> To use it you need to configure a partitioned region's
>>> PartitionResolver
>>>>>>> using the already existing mechanism for this (api, gfsh, or xml).
>>>>>>> The StringPrefixPartitionResolver will require all keys on its
>> region
>>> to
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> of type String.
>>>>>>> It also requires that the string key contains at least one ':'
>>> character.
>>>>>>> The substring of the key that precedes the first ':' is the prefix
>>> that
>>>>>>> will be returned from "getRoutingObject".
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> An example of doing this in gfsh is:
>>>>>>>      create region --name=r1 --type=PARTITION
>>>>>>> --partition-resolver=org.apache.geode.cache.StringPrefixPart
>>>>>>> itionResolver
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Note that attempting to use a key that is not a String or does not
>>>>>>> contain
>>>>>>> a ':' will throw an exception. This is to help developers realize
>> they
>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>> a mistake.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Note that the delimiter is always a ':'. It would be easy to made
>> the
>>>>>>> delimiter configurable when using apis or xml but currently gfsh
>> does
>>> not
>>>>>>> provide a way to pass parameters to the --partition-resolver create
>>>>>>> region
>>>>>>> option.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The only public api change this proposal makes is the new
>>>>>>> StringPrefixPartitionResolver class.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 

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