MQTT is an interesting idea but from the wiki page it sounds like it depends on 
a broker. In that architecture, would the server be the broker as well as a 
publisher and subscriber? Would the locator be the broker? Or would we 
introduce a separate broker, either third-party or bespoke?

Sarge

> On 10 Apr, 2017, at 13:21, Michael Stolz <mst...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> 
> I am wondering why we are leaning so heavily toward RPC IDL rather than
> messaging standards.
> 
> One of the big features of the client-server discussion around Geode is the
> ability to register interest and run Continuous Queries.
> Both of these behave more like messaging than RPCs.
> 
> Beyond that all that Geode really does is puts and gets and function calls.
> A put is analogous to a publish. A get is similar to a subscribe. A
> function call can be implemented as a put on a special topic that has a
> callback attached to it. In fact that's how we used to do server side
> functions before we added the function execution api.
> 
> The other thing we are constantly battling with is being able to push more
> and more data into Geode from clients faster and faster.
> That too lends itself to a messaging protocol.
> 
> In fact, I remember that last year we were already having some discussions
> about maybe developing a client based on MQTT.
> That would make GemFire a natural for the Internet-of-Things and for mobile
> devices.
> I wonder if it would be sufficient for a full-blown .Net GemFire client.
> 
> One of our goals in this thread is to be able to have clients in many
> languages.
> Well, there are at least 75 different language bindings for MQTT already
> out in the wild.
> 
> MQTT is agnostic about what format the payload is in, so we could support
> PDX if we choose to, or ProtoBufs or FlatBuffers or whatever else for
> payload serialization.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> 
> --
> Mike Stolz
> Principal Engineer, GemFire Product Manager
> Mobile: +1-631-835-4771
> 
> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Galen M O'Sullivan <gosulli...@pivotal.io>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Bruce Schuchardt <bschucha...@pivotal.io
>>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I agree that key/value serialization is a separate issue and more related
>>> to storage than communications.  The thing I'm struggling with is how to
>>> specify message metadata in an RPC IDL.  I'm thinking of things like an
>>> eventID, transaction info, security principal, etc.  The basic
>>> client/server messaging doesn't need to know the details of this
>>> information - just that it exists and maybe the ID of each piece of
>>> metadata.
>>> 
>> 
>> Is there any reason that this data couldn't be packed into, say, Thrift
>> types? It's all numbers, right?
>> 

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