My only concern with the whole Outreachy effort is the implied coordination with fundraising. At least for the time being, we should simply say that fundraising is out of scope for D&I. No effort should be made to do anything but understand the current situation with funding.
That said, having the three individuals sharing the coordination role is a great step forward. Craig > On Jul 14, 2019, at 11:53 AM, Griselda Cuevas <[email protected]> wrote: > > Just to for clarification. > > I'd like to hear your feedback on assigning Matt, Katia and Awasum as > Outreachy coordinators for the ASF. I'd like to make this official after > 72h from this email. > > On Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 10:16 AM Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Working with Fundraising makes incredible sense for future work so we can >> get more sponsors. The first round (Winter 2019) sounds funded already, so >> any work done with Fundraising would be to target the Summer 2020 Outreachy >> round. >> >> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 12:04, Griselda Cuevas <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Agreed. Thanks Sam & Ross. >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 12:15 AM Ross Gardler >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes. >>>> >>>> As Sam neatly highlights in his clarification it is critical to draw >>>> accurate boundaries when pushing back against community concerns. Small >>>> reversible steps is a phrase we often use, I guess we should make it >>> "Small >>>> and clearly defined reversible steps". >>>> >>>> Ross >>>> >>>> --- >>>> >>>> Sent from my phone, likely while waking down the stars and having a >>>> conversation. Sorry about my carelessness, I blame the machines. >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: Sam Ruby <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2019 5:36:08 AM >>>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [Volunteer Needed] Outreachy Coordinator for the ASF >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 7:31 PM Ross Gardler >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I'm all for the proposal but... >>>>> >>>>> Why would this committee be doing fundraising? Nothing in the >> proposal >>>> we currently have consensus around requires fundraising. There is a >>> reason >>>> for this. Furthermore, we have a fundraising committee charged with >>>> fundraising activities should it ever be approved that the ASF raises >>> funds >>>> for Outreachy. >>>> >>>> Would the following be acceptable? >>>> >>>> In most organizations that Outreachy deals with, the organization >>>> itself sponsors Outreachy's efforts. At the moment, the ASF is not >>>> such an organization, and may never be. >>>> >>>> Instead we are currently relying on generous sponsor(s), and from time >>>> to time may need to work directly with them. Any such work will need >>>> to be coordinated by out fundraising committee which is largely >>>> composed of volunteers. Fundraising already works closely with >>>> Marketing and Publicity, Conferences, and Virtual Inc. >>>> >>>> The Outreachy coordinators can decide amongst themselves to what >>>> extent it makes sense to work with fundraising and which of them (if >>>> any) will liaise with the fundraising committee. >>>> >>>>> Ross >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my phone, likely while waking down the stars and having a >>>> conversation. Sorry about my carelessness, I blame the machines. >>>> >>>> - Sam Ruby >>>> >>> >> -- >> Matt Sicker <[email protected]> >> Craig L Russell [email protected]
