I'm afraid I don't know what option 1 or option 2 are.

If you asked me to add a line item for Outreachy for ~2 interns, I'd
vote yes.  If you asked for closer to 10, I'd say no, I simply don't
think we have enough mentors to support that many interns. To me, it's
not the money, it's the ability to support the interns because I see how
much work it takes for GSOC..

Regards,
KAM

On 6/12/2019 3:50 PM, Griselda Cuevas wrote:
> The discussion so far has been helpful to inform a decision, however I just
> want to remind us that we need to get consensus on whether we put a line
> for this budget request or not. Please vote on option 1 or 2. If there are
> no votes, I'll default to option 2: no request.
>
> Please state your vote clearly.
>
> Thanks
> G
>
> On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 at 05:16, Griselda Cuevas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I like Niall's idea of trying out with 2 interns. The website states that
>> the cost is $5,500 per intern and $500 for travel.
>>
>> Outreachy's website [1] has a good description of the format, program etc.
>>
>> I don't have details in what the interns will do, my guess is that they
>> will work on similar tasks than the GSoC folks? Maybe folks who have done
>> the program can share more info?
>>
>> A champion would be the project owner, who ensures we execute on the
>> budget request and program.
>>
>> [1] Outreachy.org
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2019, 2:57 PM Niall Pemberton <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 at 10:51, Bertrand Delacretaz <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 11:21 AM Griselda Cuevas <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> ...Please vote on wether you support Outreachy as a project this year
>>>> and what option you'd prefer we follow re:budget request...
>>>>
>>>> Considering the lack of time, best might be to ask for the $30k budget
>>>> with the understanding that we're not sure yet if we'll use it.
>>>
>>> There are two rounds of internship each year. The next “Pre Application”
>>> period is late August 2019. Will we be ready with a co-ordinator, projects
>>> willing to take part & mentors by then? If not the next period starts in
>>> Late January 2020. The minimum commitment required is funding for one
>>> intern @ $6,500 and it could well work out that Outreachy will be able to
>>> connect interns with Sponsors for funding. There’s still the question of
>>> how we will setup long term with Sponsors so that the ASF isn’t paying for
>>> interns. I would suggest that this year is seen as a trial run and just ask
>>> for $13,000 for 2 interns (one in each period) with the understanding that
>>> this is just seed money to allow us to participate and may not be spent if
>>> Outreachy can hook up Sponsors. We’ll learn lessons this year and if a
>>> solution can be found for funnelling sponsors direct to Outreachy then
>>> hopefully it will be self funding pretty quickly.
>>>
>>> Niall
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> This would give us time to better define the project and needs.
>>>>
>>>> -Bertrand
>>>>

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