On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 at 13:42, Niall Pemberton <niall.pember...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 at 12:52, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 at 12:39, Niall Pemberton <niall.pember...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 at 12:02, Niall Pemberton <niall.pember...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 at 11:02, Arnout Engelen <enge...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> To make it clearer that 'Dormant' components are not actively
> > maintained,
> > > >> I
> > > >> think it would be good if we marked GitHub repo's for those as
> > 'Archived'.
> > > >> AFAICS those are:
> > > >>
> > > >> https://github.com/apache/commons-chain
> > > >> https://github.com/apache/commons-functor
> > > >> https://github.com/apache/commons-ognl
> > > >> https://github.com/apache/commons-proxy
> > > >>
> > > >> I've filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-26952
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm +0 on this - seems pretty clear from the README files in GitHUb
> > that
> > > > these components are no longer maintained.
> > > >
> > > > If this is going to be done though, then we need to fix any issues
> > before
> > > > they're archived. I just corrected a couple of issues for Chain, but
> > > > theres probably a few other things todo:
> > > >  - remove obsolete references to Twitter & IRC
> > > >  - remove the "Contributing" & "Donations" sections, since it won't be
> > > > possible to create PRs etc once the repos are archived
> > > >
> > >
> > > One more thought - we won’t be able to make changes to fix issues or
> > > changes to the L&F of these components websites once they’re archived.
> >
> > The websites are not served from GH, rather from SVN, e.g.
> >
> > https://svn-master.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/commons/content/dormant/commons-ognl/
> >
> > That can be populated from anywhere, so it would be possible to clone
> > the source locally and rebuild the site in order to make site fixes.
>
>
> No, this would be a mistake to allow this.

That's a policy decision; my comment was about technical possibility.

> Zero visibility to the PMC of
> the changes and a nightmare to ensure subsequent changes don’t overwrite a
> previous “invisible” fix.

The source could be cloned as a private repo and used to fix the website.
This would provide visibility to the PMC.

> Or indeed just fix any issues directly in SVN (as has been done
> > sometimes to quickly fix broken links)
>
>
> Not a viable long term maintenance solution as it would remove the ability
> to “generate” the site from source.

Indeed, that was not intended as a long-term solution.

Note that regeneration of old sites can be problematic because of
software updates...

> For me it’s implicit that archiving these repos means that the component
> websites will no longer be maintained.
>
> Niall
>
> Sebb
> > > Niall
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Niall
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Kind regards,
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Arnout Engelen
> > > >> ASF Security Response
> > > >> Apache Pekko PMC member, ASF Member
> > > >> NixOS Committer
> > > >> Independent Open Source consultant
> > > >>
> > > >
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