On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Thomas Neidhart <thomas.neidh...@gmail.com
> wrote:

> On 06/23/2015 05:59 PM, sebb wrote:
> > The default karma needed for committing to the SVN dist/release/TLP
> > areas is membership of the LDAP PMC group. This can be changed to be
> > membership of the LDAP committer group if required.
> >
> > I'm not sure about the current karma needed for Nexus upload, it may
> > be either PMC or committer  membership. AFAIK this can be changed if
> > necessary.
> >
> > I think it would be useful to allow non-PMC members to act as release
> manager.
> > This means relaxing some of the existing technical restrictions.
>

Just be clear, that would mean that any Apache Committer could release any
Apache Commons component.

Gary


> >
> > However I think it would too permissive to allow any ASF committer to
> act as RM.
> > Releases cannot be reverted in the same way as commits, and need a
> > greater degree of experience than code/doc fixes.
> >
> > So I suggest that Commons agrees that membership of the LDAP Commons
> > committer group be regarded as sufficient karma for performing RM
> > tasks.
> >
> > [We no longer use the LDAP Commons committer group for controlling
> > access to the code itself.
> > I think the LDAP committer group is largely redundant. This would give
> > it a new role.]
> >
> > The PMC does not need to involve the board in changes to the committer
> group.
> > Updates to the LDAP group can be made by a PMC chair.
> > Apart from the actual Commons chair there are other chairs on the PMC
> > as well as Infra folks, so that should not be an issue once it has
> > been decided on the RM.
> >
> > So it would be a relatively simple process to grant karma to a new RM
> > once any necessary technical changes have been made.
> >
> > Thoughts?
>
> I think that every committer shall be able to do a release for a commons
> component after it has been discussed on the mailinglist.
>
> Otoh, I think it would be very beneficial if at least one PMC member
> provides mentoring for somebody doing his / her first release here, as
> the process can be quite complex and frustrating.
>
> I did survive my first release only because I followed the wonderful
> release guide for math, but only few people know about it.
>
> Thomas
>
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