well what i don't get is you (understand as tomcat guy) are the first to relocate classes to avoid clashes with apps and here you don't want.
we worked on tomee to limit the side effects but we can't guarantee it at 100% (typically one weird case is https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-758) I think i have 2 points for JUL: 1) logging is mainly for exceptions so no need to bring something for a case which shouldn't be that common 2) DBCP is highly linked to JDBC and JDBC uses JUL in its recent API (java 7 IIRC) so maybe we should just align on it *Romain Manni-Bucau* *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>* *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau* *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau* 2013/7/24 Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> > On 24/07/2013 10:38, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: > > that's one issue we have we tomee, some deps use CL. > > So it is a problem you have already solved. > > > Moreover CL has issue in classloader trees for years so i don't think > > that's a good choice at all. > > Then we have different views. > > > slf4j is clearly better supported and is light too. > > If slf4j is your logging framework of choice then simply don't use > Commons Logging at all and use JCL over SLF4J. > > > If you don't want to redo a facade ("want" is not an answer btw) maybe > > just reuse slf4j. > > I don't want to write yet another facade because there is simply no > need. Writing another facade would make switching logging frameworks > harder, not easier. > > > There is a choice with respect to which facade DBCP uses. I'm of the > view that we should be eating our own dog food here and if using Commons > Logging for DBCP identifies some issues with Commons Logging then we > should fix those issues in Commons Logging. > > Mark > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > >
