On Thu, 2 Nov 2006, Leszek Gawron wrote:
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 22:14:32 +0100
From: Leszek Gawron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Release roadmap
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
> Joerg Heinicke wrote:
> > IMHO this is too fast. We did not receive any feedback on the 2.2
> > stuff from any non-committer (only people working with committers). We
> > should run through some release candidates first, which gives the
> > users the impression of having something at least testable. If we want
> > to push the final 2.2 release now and if the current trunk is feature
> > complete, we should do a RC 1 release (not another milestone) and see
> > how it is accepted. With M2 soon and final release only one month
> > later I feel like flying blind ...
> +1. let's have some more milestone releases and release candiates before
> we make the first official release because all contracts that we
> establish with an official release _are_ carved in stone. And as we know
> it takes a long time to get rid of badly designed/implemented things
> again.
>
Yes, of course I agree with this in general, but personally I doubt that
releasing a 2.2-RCx will give us more feedback (perhaps I'm too
pessimistic on this).
This could work if we provided binary distributions with NO need to fight
maven. Then all you need to do is to create a webapp, copy cocoon jars and
put own resources into appropriate classpath paths.
My feeling is 2.2 is far from being stable. I am rebuilding cocoon at least
once a week to get some bugs resolves/new features working. Cocoon core and
deployer have changed so frequently last weeks/months that even me constantly
rebuilding and updating all my projects manually lost track few times. What
drives me nuts is that fact that webapps created with previous deployer
versions loose compatibility with latest core).
That's the downside living at the bleeding edge :-)
I've gone through it as well but several time but won't stop getting the
structure refactored for simplicity upon to a final release. After than
structure should not change anymore (hopefully).
My coworkers are quite desperate about cocoon: hardly any of them understand
the errors webapp spits out when a new build is introduced.
On the bright side: Even thoughs some things still are a little bit shaky my
every new project is using the lastest 2.2 in production and I do not notice
and major failures.
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Giacomo Pati
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