On 18 Nov 2003, at 10:15, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Dion Gillard wrote:James Strachan wrote:As an outsider, this is very confusing. Lenya 'is not an ASF project', asLenya, which has a URI, http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/, outside of the incubator domain.Hmmm, how come Lenya got a URI? Can we have one too? I guess so if Lenya already has?
it's being incubated, but the URL sure makes it seem like it is a sub
project of cocoon.
In total fairness to Lenya, the first paragraph of their home page talks
about incubation. However, I agree as a policy matter that the site should
be moved, with a redirect put in place, as described below. After a project
leaves the incubator, a redirect can be put in the incubator's .htaccess to
reference its new location.
To demonstrate the technique, and further illustrating why web-sites should
be maintained in CVS (as Lenya's is :-)), I just issued the following
command:
cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/cvspublic \ checkout -d lenya cocoon-site/site/lenya
from /www/incubator.apache.org. You will notice that a copy of the lenya
site is now at http://incubator.apache.org/lenya. All that is left for the
Cocoon project to do now is to place:
Redirect Permanent /lenya http://incubator.apache.org/lenya
in .htaccess in their site root, and the location change should be
transparent to all. I won't do that, though. That is a change for them to
make.
When the lenya site is updated, someone just needs to do:
cd /www/incubator.apache.org/lenya cvs update -Pd
rather than doing the exact same thing in /www/cocoon.apache.org/lenya.
The process is simple, and should not be disruptive to their progress at
all. It is actually rather cool that things can be this simple.
--- Noel
cc: lenya-dev@
The process is simple, yes, but it would break all the links to Lenya.
When we started lenya, the rules of the incubator were not there yet, so we took lenya closer to the community that it depends on.
Before breaking all the links, I would like to know if the above is just a suggestion or a rule that incubated projects have to follow.
NOTE: I'm just wondering. I'm not criticizing or anything, just curious.
-- Stefano.
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