I'd be happy to take a look at reviewing this as well as I would be excited
to see Auto Repair in 5.0.  Thank you for the patch, Paulo!

Andy

On Fri, Jan 30, 2026 at 5:13 PM Paulo Motta <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have submitted a patch porting AutoRepair to 5.0 on CASSANDRA-21138[1]
> and tagged Jaydeep Chovatia for review. I would greatly appreciate other
> sets of eyes, especially those involved with the original CEP-37 effort.
>
> The feature is disabled by default and no schema changes are made unless a
> JVM flag is enabled to reduce upgrade risk to users who do not intend to
> enable this feature.
>
> Please let us know if you have any questions or concerns about having this
> merged in 5.0.
>
> [1] - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-21138
>
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 8:34 PM Jaydeep Chovatia <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Sure, I am happy to review it whenever it's ready, Paulo. Please let me
>> know.
>>
>> Jaydeep
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 8:32 AM Paulo Motta <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with Scott. I don't think we should backport this to 4.1 due to
>>> the compatibility issues raised plus this branch has already been
>>> stabilized for a while.
>>>
>>> I think backporting auto-repair to 5.0 would be more appropriate as it
>>> would encourage users to adopt this version and get closer to trunk, rather
>>> than encouraging users to stick to an older version.
>>>
>>> I decided to take a stab at backporting auto-repair + additional fixes
>>> to 5.0 on this preliminary PR:
>>> https://github.com/apache/cassandra/pull/4558
>>>
>>> It's not ready for review yet since I need to gate the schema changes
>>> under a feature flag, but I think I can get it ready by the end of week.
>>>
>>> If there's no opposition against shipping this in 5.0 maybe I can create
>>> a JIRA and have Jaydeep review it ?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 11:15 AM C. Scott Andreas <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> For the purpose of a quick straw poll, I’m not opposed to backporting
>>>> to 5.x, but I don’t support backporting to 4.x-series releases for the
>>>> compatibility and upgrade complexity reasons previously discussed.
>>>>
>>>> - Scott
>>>>
>>>> > On Jan 12, 2026, at 1:27 AM, Štefan Miklošovič <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi everybody,
>>>> >
>>>> > I want to refresh this thread after the holidays. Is there an
>>>> > agreement we reached? Is everybody on board with backporting to 4.1+?
>>>> > How are we going to do this concretely? I guess Jaydeep would be
>>>> > involved in the backporting as he just said. I honestly do not think
>>>> > there is anybody else better suited to make it happen and your
>>>> > willingness to do that is really appreciated.
>>>> >
>>>> > Regards
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Tue, Dec 23, 2025 at 5:38 AM Jaydeep Chovatia
>>>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> FYI—regardless of the outcome, you can count on me to port CEP-37 in
>>>> whatever form the community agrees on. As mentioned earlier, I’m already
>>>> maintaining a private 4.1.6 fork (
>>>> https://github.com/apache/cassandra/pull/3367).
>>>> >> Thank you!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Jaydeep
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> On Mon, Dec 22, 2025 at 7:43 AM Micah Green <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I'm really interested in this thread, but don't see an update on
>>>> where we landed in terms of backporting and also the amount of work
>>>> involved.  I'm all for backporting to 5.x minimally!  I'm planning our 2026
>>>> work and where this discussion goes will really help me optimally plan,
>>>> which is why I'm asking.
>>>> >>> Thanks!
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Sun, Dec 7, 2025 at 4:44 PM Ekaterina Dimitrova <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Seems like the 4.1 branch would still require some work to cover
>>>> everything raised on this thread? Have anyone evaluated how much work that
>>>> can be?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I agree porting to 4.1, but not 4.0 is kind of weird. Then
>>>> probably we better have it only in 5.0?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Do people think it makes sense to create some kind of user survey
>>>> around this work, too? Posted in @user
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Fri, 5 Dec 2025 at 9:00, Josh McKenzie <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Otherwise it feels weird backporting to 4.1 but not 4.0, and
>>>> backporting to both would increase the risk and maintenance burden.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> It would but by how much?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> 2 things jump out to me re: risk and maintenance:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Risk: We kind of need to tackle the "version straddle w/schema
>>>> table diffs is currently Bad and makes rollbacks manual and brittle"
>>>> broadly; this feature is just one more example of that though it's a little
>>>> exacerbated by discussing doing something like this in a patch release. The
>>>> ergonomics of the "one-way-door without a human manually deleting columns"
>>>> part holds true cross-MAJOR too. "Progress" here seems like it's either we
>>>> handle this on a case-by-case basis w/flags to remove those schema entries
>>>> on rollback (kinda ew), or more durably with an elegant solution in the
>>>> long term, i.e. capabilities framework, though that doesn't answer the "we
>>>> explode when schemas don't match" bit.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Maintenance: maintaining this across 4 branches is clearly more
>>>> toil than across 2.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> I'm personally kind of keen for us to tackle that Risk bit; I'd
>>>> like all of us to be able to more freely consider making changes to schema
>>>> tables w/out the complexity burden we have right now and the operator toil
>>>> and risk that comes along with it.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> The maintenance toil bit - I have less opinions on. Kind of
>>>> depends on how many people are on 4.0/4.1 right now that we'd expect to be
>>>> on 4.1 for another year until 7.0 hits and whether we think they'd benefit
>>>> from the feature (and contribute to bettering it) during that year I guess.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2025, at 5:57 PM, Paulo Motta wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Otherwise it feels weird backporting to 4.1 but not 4.0, and
>>>> backporting to both would increase the risk and maintenance burden.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>>
>>>

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