Totally agree with Jon here basically on all fronts. Apache Cassandra
Sidecar was always a hard nut to crack for me, that is probably why I have
not been involved with that a lot even that is a great tool to have and be
invested in as I was writing my own sidecar and I found a lot of
similarities and problems Apache's sidecar tries to fix. There was some
invisible barrier I have never managed to jump over. I was looking around
and I am very sorry if I just have not found it yet but there is not a list
of endpoints a sidecar has, is there? In readme and dev docs there is just
nothing. Taking it at a face value I just don't know what Sidecar is
capable of and how to use it. I see in the commit history there is a bunch
of commits mentioning S3 but it is a total blackbox for me as a potential
user.

On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 2:52 PM Jon Haddad <j...@rustyrazorblade.com> wrote:

> I don't think we should release sidecar 1.0 without any docs.
>
> I took a look through the closed JIRAs to see what's there.  Here's what I
> found, please correct me if there's more:
>
> - Lots of stuff related to analytics.
>
> I would be pretty excited for this, but the analytics library only works
> with single token clusters.  Most folks don't run Cassandra this way.  I
> realize there's some element of everyone needs to scratch their own itch,
> but I don't think we can really call this a useful feature if the
> overwhelming majority of folks can't use it.  I've worked with a couple
> hundred teams over the years and can only think of 1 org outside of Apple
> and Netflix that used 1 token, and It was a cluster that predated v-nodes.
>
> The analytics repo says it's compatible with Cassandra 4, but not 5.
>
> - Backup & Restore from S3
>
> Is this compatible with other cloud providers or object stores?  It
> specifically lists S3 in JIRA.  I haven't looked at the source yet.  Am I
> correct in reading it supports backing up snapshots, no continuous
> backups?  Seems like we should have at least feature parity with Medusa if
> we're going to release something here.
>
> All the other closed JIRAs look related to these two items.  So the
> question is, are we releasing 1.0 as an limited S3 backup and restore
> tool?  One that prevents you from upgrading to Cassandra 5 if you happen to
> use single token clusters?
>
> Who is the target audience?
>
> Jon
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 2:41 AM Dinesh Joshi <djo...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Currently the Sidecar has a lot of functionality that is immediately
>> usable by the community. Apart from minor fixes, the AuthN/Z story would be
>> wrapped up soon. Post this, I would propose moving forward with cutting a
>> release with the existing feature set so we can get this in the hands of
>> our community.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 8:27 PM guo Maxwell <cclive1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Have the same question : what ‘s the plan ?
>>>
>>> Jeff Jirsa <jji...@gmail.com>于2024年10月2日 周三上午10:43写道:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 1, 2024, at 7:26 PM, Josh McKenzie <jmcken...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> However it is used by a number of other features as a dependency such
>>>> as analytics, backup/restore, repair, metrics, and CDC
>>>>
>>>> It seems like a natural pressure relief valve for moving operations out
>>>> of a core C* node that are well served out of process.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yea, but the point of the foundation is to RELEASE software for the
>>>> public good, and the link asserting consensus was dec2018, so its’ 5.5
>>>> years and no releases.
>>>>
>>>> What’s the plan here?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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