It was great having some more extended discussions about Harry in person
last week. Anything we can do to make it easier for anyone to test
Cassandra thoroughly is an easy +1 from me!

Thanks for all your efforts so far, Alex.

Patrick

On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 8:03 AM Jacek Lewandowski <
lewandowski.ja...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Obviously +1
>
> Thank you Alex
>
> pt., 22 gru 2023, 16:45 użytkownik Sumanth Pasupuleti <
> sumanth.pasupuleti...@gmail.com> napisał:
>
>> +1, thank you for your efforts in bringing Harry in-tree. Anything that
>> improves the testing ecosystem for Cassandra, particularly around complex
>> scenarios / edge cases  goes a long way in improving reliability, and with
>> having a powerful tool like Harry in-tree, it is a lot more accessible to
>> the developers than it has been. Also, thank you for keeping in mind the
>> onboarding experience of developers.
>>
>> - Sumanth
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 1:11 AM Alex Petrov <al...@coffeenco.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Some follow-up tickets to establish the project direction:
>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-19229
>>>
>>> Two other things that we will work on in Tree are:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-18275 (model and in-JVM
>>> test for partition-restricted 2i queries)
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-18667 (multi-threaded
>>> SAI read and write fuzz test)
>>>
>>> If you would like to get your recently added feature tested with Harry
>>> model, please let me know!
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 22, 2023, at 12:41 AM, Joseph Lynch wrote:
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> Sounds like a great change that will help us unify around a common
>>> testing paradigm, and even pave the path to in-tree load testing plus
>>> integrated correctness checking which would be extremely valuable!
>>>
>>> -Joey
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 1:35 PM Caleb Rackliffe <
>>> calebrackli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> Agree w/ all the justifications mentioned above.
>>>
>>> As a reviewer on CASSANDRA-19210
>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-19210>, my goals were
>>> to a.) look at the directory, naming, and package structure of the ported
>>> code, b.) make sure IDE integration was working, and c.) make sure any
>>> modifications to existing code (rather than direct code movements from
>>> cassandra-harry) were straightforward.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 3:23 PM Alex Petrov <al...@coffeenco.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey folks,
>>>
>>> I am mostly done with a patch that brings Harry in-tree [1]. I will
>>> trigger one more CI run overnight, and my intention was to merge it some
>>> time soon, but I wanted to give a fair warning here, since this is a
>>> relatively large patch.
>>>
>>> Good news for everyone that it:
>>>   a) touches no production code whatsoever. Only test (in-jvm dtest
>>> namely) code that was using Harry already.
>>>   b) the only tests that are changed are ones that used a duplicate
>>> version of placement simulator we had both for testing TCM, and in Harry
>>>   c) in addition, I have converted 3 existing TCM tests to a new API to
>>> have some base for examples/usage.
>>>
>>> Since we were effectively relying on this code for a while now, and the
>>> intention now is to converge to:
>>>   a) fewer different generators, and have a shareable version of
>>> generators for everyone to use accross the base
>>>   b) a testing tool that can be useful for both trivial cases, and
>>> complex scenarios
>>> myself and many other Cassandra contributors have expressed an opinion
>>> that bringing Harry in-tree will be highly benefitial.
>>>
>>> I strongly believe that bringing Harry in-tree will help to lower the
>>> barrier for fuzz test and simplify co-development of Cassandra and Harry.
>>> Previously, it has been rather difficult to debug edge cases because I had
>>> to either re-compile an in-jvm dtest jar and bring it to Harry, or
>>> re-compile a Harry jar and bring it to Cassandra, which is both tedious and
>>> time consuming. Moreover, I believe we have missed at very least one RT
>>> regression [2] because Harry was not in-tree, as its tests would've caught
>>> the issue even with the model that existed.
>>>
>>> For other recently found issues, I think having Harry in-tree would have
>>> substantially lowered a turnaround time, and allowed me to share repros
>>> with developers of corresponding features much quicker.
>>>
>>> I do expect a slight learning curve for Harry, but my intention is to
>>> build a web of simple tests (worked on some of them yesterday after
>>> conversation with David already), which can follow the in-jvm-dtest pattern
>>> of find-similar-test / copy / modify. There's already copious
>>> documentation, so I do not believe not having docs for Harry was ever an
>>> issue, since there have been plenty.
>>>
>>> You all are aware of my dedication to testing and quality of Apache
>>> Cassandra, and I hope you also see the benefits of having a model checker
>>> in-tree.
>>>
>>> Thank you and happy upcoming holidays,
>>> --Alex
>>>
>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-19210
>>> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-18932
>>>
>>>
>>>

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