Please mark such bugs with fixVersion 5.0-beta

If there are no more tickets that need API changes (i.e. those that should
be marked fixVersion 5.0-alpha) this then indicates we do not need a
5.0-alpha3 release and can focus towards 5.0-beta1 (regardless of having
blockers open to it).

Appreciate the attention 18993 is getting – we do have a shortlist of beta
blockers that we gotta prioritise !


On Sat, 4 Nov 2023 at 18:33, Benedict <bened...@apache.org> wrote:

> Yep, data loss bugs are not any old bug. I’m concretely -1 (binding)
> releasing a beta with one that’s either under investigation or confirmed.
>
> As Scott says, hopefully it won’t come to that - the joy of deterministic
> testing is this should be straightforward to triage.
>
> On 4 Nov 2023, at 17:30, C. Scott Andreas <sc...@paradoxica.net> wrote:
>
> I’d happily be the first to vote -1(nb) on a release containing a known
> and reproducible bug that can result in data loss or an incorrect response
> to a query. And I certainly wouldn’t run it.
>
> Since we have a programmatic repro within just a few seconds, this should
> not take long to root-cause.
>
> On Friday, Alex worked to get this reproducing on a Cassandra branch
> rather than via unstaged changes. We should have a published / shareable
> example with details near the beginning of the week.
>
> – Scott
>
> On Nov 4, 2023, at 10:17 AM, Josh McKenzie <jmcken...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> 
>
> I think before we cut a beta we need to have diagnosed and fixed 18993
> (assuming it is a bug).
>
> Before a beta? I could see that for rc or GA definitely, but having a
> known (especially non-regressive) data loss bug in a beta seems like it's
> compatible with the guarantees we're providing for it:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Release+Lifecycle
>
> This release is recommended for test/QA clusters where short(order of
> minutes) downtime during upgrades is not an issue
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 4, 2023, at 12:56 PM, Ekaterina Dimitrova wrote:
>
> Totally agree with the others. Such an issue on its own should be a
> priority in any release. Looking forward to the reproduction test mentioned
> on the ticket.
>
> Thanks to Alex for his work on harry!
>
> On Sat, 4 Nov 2023 at 12:47, Benedict <bened...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Alex can confirm but I think it actually turns out to be a new bug in 5.0,
> but either way we should not cut a release with such a serious potential
> known issue.
>
> > On 4 Nov 2023, at 16:18, J. D. Jordan <jeremiah.jor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like 18993 is not a regression in 5.0? But present in 4.1 as
> well?  So I would say we should fix it with the highest priority and get a
> new 4.1.x released. Blocking 5.0 beta voting is a secondary issue to me if
> we have a “data not being returned” issue in an existing release?
> >
> >> On Nov 4, 2023, at 11:09 AM, Benedict <bened...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> I think before we cut a beta we need to have diagnosed and fixed 18993
> (assuming it is a bug).
> >>
> >>>> On 4 Nov 2023, at 16:04, Mick Semb Wever <m...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>>
> >>>> With the publication of this release I would like to switch the
> >>>> default 'latest' docs on the website from 4.1 to 5.0.  Are there any
> >>>> objections to this ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I would also like to propose the next 5.0 release to be 5.0-beta1
> >>>
> >>> With the aim of reaching GA for the Summit, I would like to suggest we
> >>> work towards the best-case scenario of 5.0-beta1 in two weeks and
> >>> 5.0-rc1 first week Dec.
> >>>
> >>> I know this is a huge ask with lots of unknowns we can't actually
> >>> commit to.  But I believe it is a worthy goal, and possible if nothing
> >>> sideswipes us – but we'll need all the help we can get this month to
> >>> make it happen.
> >>
>
>
>

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