Great thanks for the information

On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 12:44 PM Blake Eggleston
<beggles...@apple.com.invalid> wrote:

> Hi Jake,
>
> > 1.  Will this effort eventually replace consistency levels in C*?  I ask
> > because one of the shortcomings of our paxos today is
> > it can be easily mixed with non serialized consistencies and therefore
> > users commonly break consistency by for example reading at CL.ONE while
> > also
> > using LWTs.
>
> This will likely require CLs to be specified at the schema level for
> tables using multi partition transactions. I’d expect this to be available
> for other tables, but not required.
>
> > 2. What structural changes are planned to support an external dependency
> > project like this?  Are there some high level interfaces you expect the
> > project to adhere to?
>
> There will be some interfaces that need to be implemented in C* to support
> the library. You can find the current interfaces in the accord.api package,
> but these were written to support some initial testing, and not intended
> for integration into C* as is. Things are pretty fluid right now and will
> be rewritten / refactored multiple times over the next few months.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Blake
>
>
> > On Sun, Sep 5, 2021 at 10:33 AM bened...@apache.org <bened...@apache.org
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Wiki:
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/CEP-15%3A+General+Purpose+Transactions
> >> Whitepaper:
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/188744725/Accord.pdf
> >> <
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/188744725/Accord.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1630847736966&api=v2
> >>>
> >> Prototype: https://github.com/belliottsmith/accord
> >>
> >> Hi everyone, I’d like to propose this CEP for adoption by the community.
> >>
> >> Cassandra has benefitted from LWTs for many years, but application
> >> developers that want to ensure consistency for complex operations must
> >> either accept the scalability bottleneck of serializing all related
> state
> >> through a single partition, or layer a complex state machine on top of
> the
> >> database. These are sophisticated and costly activities that our users
> >> should not be expected to undertake. Since distributed databases are
> >> beginning to offer distributed transactions with fewer caveats, it is
> past
> >> time for Cassandra to do so as well.
> >>
> >> This CEP proposes the use of several novel techniques that build upon
> >> research (that followed EPaxos) to deliver (non-interactive) general
> >> purpose distributed transactions. The approach is outlined in the
> wikipage
> >> and in more detail in the linked whitepaper. Importantly, by adopting
> this
> >> approach we will be the _only_ distributed database to offer global,
> >> scalable, strict serializable transactions in one wide area round-trip.
> >> This would represent a significant improvement in the state of the art,
> >> both in the academic literature and in commercial or open source
> offerings.
> >>
> >> This work has been partially realised in a prototype. This partial
> >> prototype has been verified against Jepsen.io’s Maelstrom library and
> >> dedicated in-tree strict serializability verification tools, but much
> work
> >> remains for the work to be production capable and integrated into
> Cassandra.
> >>
> >> I propose including the prototype in the project as a new source
> >> repository, to be developed as a standalone library for integration into
> >> Cassandra. I hope the community sees the important value proposition of
> >> this proposal, and will adopt the CEP after this discussion, so that the
> >> library and its integration into Cassandra can be developed in parallel
> and
> >> with the involvement of the wider community.
> >>
> >
> >
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