Sorry if this is a repeat message; I messed up my mail client settings (I don't 
see it today, but it might just be stuck in an unmonitored moderator queue):

I think it is unfair to label this scope creep; it would have to be newly 
considered for 4.0 for it to fall under that umbrella, surely?

I don't personally mind if it lands, but this was discussed at length on 
multiple occasions over the past year, and only stalled because of a 
combination of lack of etiquette, and a lack of leadership from e.g. PMC in 
resolving various primarily political questions over the course of events.

I also struggle to see how this would invalidate testing in any significant 
way?  It doesn't modify any existing behaviour.


On 02/04/2020, 09:08, "Benjamin Lerer" <benjamin.le...@datastax.com> wrote:

    +1 for shipping it after 4.0
    
    
    
    On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 12:39 AM Jon Haddad <j...@jonhaddad.com> wrote:
    
    > Most of the work to provide this feature is already done.  We need to
    > generate server side CQL for snapshots already.  All we need to do is
    > expose it via either a "DESCRIBE" CQL command, or I'm equally happy to see
    > it land in a virtual table.
    >
    > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 2:45 PM sankalp kohli <kohlisank...@gmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > > +1 on holding off and focus on shipping 4.0
    > >
    > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 12:25 PM Joshua McKenzie <jmcken...@apache.org>
    > > wrote:
    > >
    > > > This looks like a feature that'd potentially invalidate some testing
    > > that's
    > > > been done and we've been feature frozen for over a year and a half.
    > Also:
    > > > scope creep.
    > > >
    > > > My PoV is we hold off. If we get into a cadence of more frequent
    > releases
    > > > we'll have it soon enough.
    > > >
    > > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 3:03 PM <e.dimitr...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > Hi,
    > > > > Normally I ping the person on the ticket or in Slack to ask him/her
    > for
    > > > > status update and whether I can help. Then probably he/she gives me 
a
    > > > > direction.
    > > > > If I can’t find the person anymore, I just use my best judgement and
    > > > > coordinate with people who might know better than me.
    > > > > For now this strategy worked for me personally.
    > > > > Hope this helps
    > > > > Ekaterina
    > > > >
    > > > > Sent from my iPhone
    > > > >
    > > > > > On 1 Apr 2020, at 14:27, Jon Haddad <j...@jonhaddad.com> wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Hey folks,
    > > > > >
    > > > > > I was looking through our open JIRAs and realized we hadn't merged
    > in
    > > > > > server side describe calls yet.  The ticket died off a ways ago,
    > and
    > > I
    > > > > > pinged Chris about it yesterday.  He's got a lot of his plate and
    > > won't
    > > > > be
    > > > > > able to work on it anytime soon.  I still think we should include
    > > this
    > > > in
    > > > > > 4.0.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > From a technical standpoint, It doesn't say much on the ticket
    > after
    > > > > Robert
    > > > > > tossed an alternative patch out there.  I don't mind reviewing and
    > > > > merging
    > > > > > either of them, it sounded like both are pretty close to done and 
I
    > > > think
    > > > > > from the perspective of updating drivers for 4.0 this will save
    > > quite a
    > > > > bit
    > > > > > of time since driver maintainers won't have to add new CQL
    > generation
    > > > for
    > > > > > the various new options that have recently appeared.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Questions:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > * Does anyone have an objection to getting this into 4.0? The
    > patches
    > > > > > aren't too huge, I think they're low risk, and also fairly high
    > > reward.
    > > > > > * I don't have an opinion (yet) on Robert's patch vs Chris's, with
    > > > regard
    > > > > > to which is preferable.
    > > > > > * Since soon after Robert put up his PR he hasn't been around, at
    > > least
    > > > > as
    > > > > > far as I've seen.  How have we dealt with abandoned patches 
before?
    > > If
    > > > > > we're going to add this in the patch will need some cleanup.  Is 
it
    > > > > > reasonable to continue someone else's work when they've
    > disappeared?
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Jon
    > > > >
    > > > > 
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