That's totally fair - but this brings us back to needing a discussion and
plan on prioritization for what 4.next looks like.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 7:41 AM Brandon Williams <dri...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I want to start by saying I don't disagree with you on this issue.
>
> But, I do want to highlight that feature creep is real, and hurting
> our impending release.
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 1:33 PM Nate McCall <zznat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think part of being a modern database is not relying on drivers/clients
> > to idiomatically rebuild the schema.
> >
> > Thanks for bringing it up, Jon - huge +1 on merging (some form) of this.
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 7:27 AM Jon Haddad <j...@jonhaddad.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey folks,
> > >
> > > I was looking through our open JIRAs and realized we hadn't merged in
> > > server side describe calls yet.  The ticket died off a ways ago, and I
> > > pinged Chris about it yesterday.  He's got a lot of his plate and
> won't be
> > > able to work on it anytime soon.  I still think we should include this
> in
> > > 4.0.
> > >
> > > From a technical standpoint, It doesn't say much on the ticket after
> Robert
> > > tossed an alternative patch out there.  I don't mind reviewing and
> merging
> > > either of them, it sounded like both are pretty close to done and I
> think
> > > from the perspective of updating drivers for 4.0 this will save quite
> a bit
> > > of time since driver maintainers won't have to add new CQL generation
> for
> > > the various new options that have recently appeared.
> > >
> > > Questions:
> > >
> > > * Does anyone have an objection to getting this into 4.0? The patches
> > > aren't too huge, I think they're low risk, and also fairly high reward.
> > > * I don't have an opinion (yet) on Robert's patch vs Chris's, with
> regard
> > > to which is preferable.
> > > * Since soon after Robert put up his PR he hasn't been around, at
> least as
> > > far as I've seen.  How have we dealt with abandoned patches before?  If
> > > we're going to add this in the patch will need some cleanup.  Is it
> > > reasonable to continue someone else's work when they've disappeared?
> > >
> > > Jon
> > >
>
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