You're right.  You'd want to expose the node-local truncate over JMX.

On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 3:48 AM, Cyril Scetbon <cyril.scet...@free.fr> wrote:
> Are you really sure of that ? cause Tracing says the opposite when I do it on 
> one node :
>
>   cqlsh:system> TRUNCATE hints ;
>
> Tracing session: fe0dbc80-49dd-11e3-a39b-e367b713537d
>
>  activity                                                                     
>           | timestamp    | source     | source_elapsed
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------------+------------+----------------
>                                                                      
> execute_cql3_query | 07:59:15,019 |  10.0.0.37 |              0
>                                                                Parsing 
> TRUNCATE hints ; | 07:59:15,020 |  10.0.0.37 |            991
>                                                                     Preparing 
> statement | 07:59:15,021 |  10.0.0.37 |           2009
>  Enqueuing truncate messages to hosts [/10.0.0.185, /10.0.0.33, /10.0.0.17, 
> /10.0.0.37] | 07:59:15,023 |  10.0.0.37 |           4459
>                                                        Message received from 
> /10.0.0.37 | 07:59:15,186 |  10.0.0.33 |            121
>                                                     Applying truncation of 
> system.hints | 07:59:15,200 |  10.0.0.33 |          11064
>                                                           Sending message to 
> /10.0.0.37 | 07:59:15,214 |  10.0.0.37 |         195660
>                                                           Sending message to 
> /10.0.0.33 | 07:59:15,217 |  10.0.0.37 |         198664
>                                                        Message received from 
> /10.0.0.37 | 07:59:15,230 | 10.0.0.185 |            149
>                                                     Applying truncation of 
> system.hints | 07:59:15,240 | 10.0.0.185 |           6248
>                                                        Message received from 
> /10.0.0.37 | 07:59:15,244 |  10.0.0.17 |            117
>                                                          Sending message to 
> /10.0.0.185 | 07:59:15,247 |  10.0.0.37 |         134087
>                                                           Sending message to 
> /10.0.0.17 | 07:59:15,248 |  10.0.0.37 |         134760
>                                                        Message received from 
> /10.0.0.37 | 07:59:15,251 |  10.0.0.37 |         232058
>                                                     Applying truncation of 
> system.hints | 07:59:15,254 |  10.0.0.37 |         234904
>                                                     Applying truncation of 
> system.hints | 07:59:15,259 |  10.0.0.17 |           8574
>                                  Enqueuing response to truncate operation to 
> /10.0.0.37 | 07:59:15,388 |  10.0.0.17 |         144491
>                                                           Sending message to 
> /10.0.0.37 | 07:59:15,389 |  10.0.0.17 |         145341
>                                                        Message received from 
> /10.0.0.17 | 07:59:15,461 |  10.0.0.37 |         441863
>                                                     Processing response from 
> /10.0.0.17 | 07:59:15,502 |  10.0.0.37 |         482942
>                                  Enqueuing response to truncate operation to 
> /10.0.0.37 | 07:59:15,578 |  10.0.0.33 |         391940
>                                                           Sending message to 
> /10.0.0.37 | 07:59:15,578 |  10.0.0.33 |         392364
>                                                        Message received from 
> /10.0.0.33 | 07:59:15,632 |  10.0.0.37 |         613172
>                                                     Processing response from 
> /10.0.0.33 | 07:59:15,632 |  10.0.0.37 |         613303
>                                  Enqueuing response to truncate operation to 
> /10.0.0.37 | 07:59:15,736 |  10.0.0.37 |         717066
>                                                           Sending message to 
> /10.0.0.37 | 07:59:15,738 |  10.0.0.37 |         719165
>                                                        Message received from 
> /10.0.0.37 | 07:59:15,739 |  10.0.0.37 |           null
>                                                     Processing response from 
> /10.0.0.37 | 07:59:15,739 |  10.0.0.37 |           null
>                                  Enqueuing response to truncate operation to 
> /10.0.0.37 | 07:59:15,915 | 10.0.0.185 |         685116
>                                                           Sending message to 
> /10.0.0.37 | 07:59:15,915 | 10.0.0.185 |         685519
>                                                       Message received from 
> /10.0.0.185 | 07:59:15,936 |  10.0.0.37 |           null
>                                                    Processing response from 
> /10.0.0.185 | 07:59:15,936 |  10.0.0.37 |           null
>                                                                        
> Request complete | 07:59:15,936 |  10.0.0.37 |         917846
>
> I also tried to generate different hints on different nodes, and truncating 
> the table on one node removed data everywhere :
>
>
> node 1
>
> at t1
>
> cqlsh> select * from system.hints ;
>
>  target_id                            | hint_id                              
> | message_version | mutation
> --------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-----------------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  748cb454-da16-4218-b6ac-728f0fe0cf41 | 9f152ea0-49e9-11e3-af88-ed7ea188ea44 
> |               6 | 
> 0x0006706e735f667200086373636574626f6e00000001019cad5323f2a6389388a31004124bdf2d7fffffff800000000000000000000000000000020003000000000004eacf278eb3a0000000000006000376616c00000004eacf278eb3a0000000040000270f
>  78078974-1f02-4da8-9902-cca56291a9dc | 474e4c30-49ec-11e3-af88-ed7ea188ea44 
> |               6 | 
> 0x0006706e735f6672000868706172736f6e7300000001019cad5323f2a6389388a31004124bdf2d7fffffff800000000000000000000000000000020003000000000004eacf6b945e10000000000006000376616c00000004eacf6b945e1000000004000010f7
>  78078974-1f02-4da8-9902-cca56291a9dc | 4e64df70-49ec-11e3-af88-ed7ea188ea44 
> |               6 | 
> 0x0006706e735f667200086373636574626f6e00000001019cad5323f2a6389388a31004124bdf2d7fffffff800000000000000000000000000000020003000000000004eacf6c49f270000000000006000376616c00000004eacf6c49f2700000000400001618
>
> at t2
>
> cqlsh:pns_fr> TRUNCATE system.hints ;
> cqlsh:pns_fr> select * from system.hints ;
>
> node 2
>
> at t1
>
> cqlsh:pns_fr> select * from system.hints ;
>
>  target_id                            | hint_id                              
> | message_version | mutation
> --------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+-----------------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  78078974-1f02-4da8-9902-cca56291a9dc | aa8f4da0-49ea-11e3-a8dc-e367b713537d 
> |               6 | 
> 0x0006706e735f667200086373636574626f6e00000001019cad5323f2a6389388a31004124bdf2d7fffffff800000000000000000000000000000020003000000000004eacf424d88b0000000000006000376616c00000004eacf424d88b000000004000004bc
>
> at t2
>
> cqlsh:pns_fr> select * from system.hints ;
>
> Regards
> --
> Cyril SCETBON
>
> On 09 Nov 2013, at 22:48, Jonathan Ellis <jbel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hints are not replicated (technically: replicated with LocalStrategy),
>> so truncating hints will always only affect the local node.
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Cyril Scetbon <cyril.scet...@free.fr> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I would like to add a feature request for local truncates of hints but I 
>>> want to know your opinion before.
>>>
>>> We faced an issue last week concerning 3 new nodes that where not seen by 
>>> some other nodes in the ring. a week later we resolved the issues but it 
>>> was taking days with a high CPU load (85%) to apply GBytes of Hints. I 
>>> noticed that CF Hints is defined with LocalStategy and so thought the 
>>> truncate was only local but that wasn't. We had to remove sstables, 
>>> commitlog and cached to remove all that old hints stored but not removed 
>>> after max_hint_window_in_ms  as target nodes where not dead (they were only 
>>> not accepting hints).
>>>
>>> So, I suggest that the truncate of hints stay local (maybe you need it to 
>>> stay global per default ?) or that we could do it locally (a truncate 
>>> argument or a new command like the one used for CONSISTENCY)
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> --
>>> Cyril SCETBON
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan Ellis
>> Project Chair, Apache Cassandra
>> co-founder, http://www.datastax.com
>> @spyced
>



-- 
Jonathan Ellis
Project Chair, Apache Cassandra
co-founder, http://www.datastax.com
@spyced

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