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> From: "Julien Pierre" <julien.pie...@oracle.com>
> To: "mozilla's crypto code discussion list" 
> <dev-tech-crypto@lists.mozilla.org>
> Cc: mozilla-dev-tech-cry...@lists.mozilla.org
> Sent: Wednesday, 2 July, 2014 4:15:15 AM
> Subject: Re: Road to RC4-free web (the case for YouTube without RC4)
> 
> Brian,
> 
> On 7/1/2014 14:05, Brian Smith wrote:
> > I think, in parallel with that, we can figure out why so many sites
> > are still using TLS_ECDHE_*_WITH_RC4_* instead of
> > TLS_ECDHE_*_WITH_AES* and start the technical evangelism efforts to
> > help them. Cheers, Brian
> The reason for sites choosing RC4 over AES_CBC might be due to the
> various vulnerabilities against CBC mode, at least for sites that
> support TLS 1.0 .

problem is that to support AES-GCM and ECDHE you need the very newest
both Apache and OpenSSL.

If you have older Apache, you do get TLS 1.2 and you do get SHA-256
suites, but you can't use ECDHE.

You also can't set different cipher order for TLS1.1 and up and TLS1.0
and lower.

So a server that has order like this:
DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256
DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256
AES128-GCM-SHA256
AES128-SHA256
RC4-SHA
DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA
AES128-SHA

will negotiate RC4 with Firefox. Such configuration has about 2% of
servers.
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Regards,
Hubert Kario
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