The URLs didn't work so I repost it and this time with a correct subject line...

This is something I really hate:
http://www.evs.ee/product/tabid/59/p-165216-cents-15480-22007.aspx

Paying for *open* standards!

Anyway, this scheme will get hard competition from a lot of places including
the token vendors who certainly do not want to become replaceable like USB
memory sticks.

The IAS scheme also fails to address other important things like:
- Questionable support for other providers.  How many credentials don't we have 
these days?
- Card readers are still not a standard facility
- And of course; how does this relate to "iPhone" et al? Like this?
http://na.blackberry.com/eng/ataglance/security/products/smartcardreader
- Probably cannot be on-line provisioned in a credible way

This is the reason (shameless plug) why I still believe that an Open Hardware
project based on
http://webpki.org/papers/keygen2/secure-key-store.pdf  and
http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card.asp?tool_id=3879
in fact may turn out as a viable concept.  It's not rocket science,
it is just plain old-fashioned engineering :-)

Anders


Jean-Marc Desperrier wrote:
Kyle Hamilton wrote:

I'm not aware of any such profile.  There is smart card profile
>  but I doubt it has much to do with PKCS #11, it is rather about
>  7816.

You're right, PKCS#11.

http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/EH_MR_rev1.pdf

But what is "7861"?


He's refering to ISO7816, the set of smart card standards :
http://www.cardwerk.com/smartcards/smartcard_standard_ISO7816.aspx

But I didn't see even a reference to that in the document you refer, thought 
USB smart card reader 
seem to be quite properly standardized, so it certainly does exist.

The trouble is that each smart card uses specific commands, which makes it 
impossible to go from 
ISO7816 to a universal pkcs#11 driver.

In Europe, we see the start of going out of that through the European Citizen 
Card (ECC) standard 
"CEN TS 15480" and the IAS (Identification Authentication Signature) service 
based on it that enable 
this time to have a universal middleware, up to the pkcs#11 signature service 
layer. Unfortunately, 
very few cards comply to this standard.

In case you are interested in some details about this IAS ECC thing, here's a 
few pointers :
http://www.oberthurcs.com/press_page.aspx?id=211&otherid=112
http://www.gemalto.com/products/multiapp_id_ias_ecc











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