Thank you, ecellent dickussion and conclusion we arrived to. I understand the general consensus is that the statement about unnotified key transmission to Thawte is correct, saying: "I know of no way", rather than "there is no way". (As Nelson Bolyard wrote).
We are all aware that there is no 100% answer (as always in life), but I assume your knowledge has some weight. This answer I think is acceptable and worth posting in other Forums (e.g. Thunderbird and/or Firefox, where this answer yould not be given). If you allow me I would cite some of our conclusions given here. Are there any privacy-concerns about citations ? (I will not post any E-Mail Adress). Please let me know. I will not do any citation if you do not want it. Further: Nelson Bolyard wrote: "Fost, You might be able to get some developer who works in a part of the browser unrelated to crypto to make a stronger statement about this. But those folks don't participate in this mailing list/newsgroup, so you'll have to ask the question elsewhere to get such an answer." Who else would you propose asking ? Thanky you, 2009/1/10 Robert Relyea <rrel...@redhat.com> > Fost1954 wrote: > >> Bob wrote: "So it turns out even with crmf, escrow does not happen >> quietly. If the CA requests a key be escrowed, the user is notified:" >> >> Sorry, Bob, but it becomes too technical for my knowledge, I do not know >> what crmf is, nor do I know what tokens etc.are, so speaking honestly: I do >> not understand your conclusion, even though the words "escrow does not >> happen quietly" sound positive. >> Could you or any Firefox developer/programmer answer to my question (see >> below): >> > I had missed the other thread (catching up on vacation email). My technical > answer is pretty much what was described in the thread. > >> >> 1. Is there a dev-tech-crypto / Firefox developer/programmer who wants to >> confirm Kaspar Band's idea that "running Firefox in "Safe >> Mode" when generating the key as well as requesting the Certificate with >> Thawte does securely prevent unnotified private key transmission ? >> > As a crypto guy, I don't know what hooks Firefox gives pluggins and such. > You are certainly safe with getting a certificate from Thawte, however. If > they escrowed the key you would know it. In some sense there is little > incentive for a CA to hide the fact that they are escrowing keys. They can > certainly fake being you without any key you give them (they simply generate > their own key and sign a certificate with your name in it). A CA that does > escrowing would only do so if it's offering some key recovery service ("if > you loose your key you can recover it from us"). CA's that try to escrow > without being up front risk public exposure and loss of market share. > > Short answer: I personally would worry about it, but I can't give you a > definative answer (since the code in question is well outside the crypto > code). > >> >> I do not want to be offending, >> > I don't think asking questions, and trying to get clarification is > offending. That's what the list is for. > > bob > > but a simple "I think so"-answer does not satisfy most of the >> Firefox-Thawte Users,... >> >> >> Thank you ! >> >> >> >
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